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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
So I finally watched it.

The plot is at the level of a child's fantasy book by Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman. The world-building is hokey in an Anne McCaffrey sort of way. Very effective strategy. The winged beasts did make me relive some long forgotten fantasy reading moments.

The way the Americans were handled was interesting. Total caricature ...[text shortened]... al.

An Arthur C. Clarke or even Asimov type plot would be stunning with those effects.
Rendevous with Rama - Arthur C. Clark - was going to have been made but has been put on the shelf. I think this would have been a much more interesting movie than avatar.

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Originally posted by Starrman
Okay, so I went to see this in 3D the other day. I've never seen a film in 3D before and I have to say that it really does enhance the experience of the film. However, the film itself is utter balls.

Imagine Dances with Wolves, on an alien planet, with blue creatures and re-written by a 12yr old.

Need I say more?

Okay, I will: Cameron should be a ...[text shortened]... is devoid of any real point, depth or interest.

Visually astounding, cerebrally puerile.
Agreed.

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You were confused about "why people pay (a lot of money in 3D) to go see it".

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Interesting real-word tie-in here:
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/avatar-on-the-west-bank/

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I think the point is that you and I are in the minority; most people are much less sophisticated than those we probably interact with.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Meh, it's not worth it. We're not going to agree on details.

I'll just that the whole of ID was just an excuse for that scene with the building being blown up. It's all anybody remembers from that film. There is no such scene in Avatar. The CGI was not meant to make you go "Wow!" during a few key scenes. It's ever-present and so serves the story.
I don't know, I remember Goldblum going 'they're shooting at us'! and Smith saying 'YOU THINK?🙂

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Originally posted by TSaffle
Rendevous with Rama - Arthur C. Clark - was going to have been made but has been put on the shelf. I think this would have been a much more interesting movie than avatar.
I really liked that book. Didn't know it was considered for a film. Too bad it was shelved.
I would like to see Gene Wolf's 'Long Sun' series on film, a generational star ship story, 500 years inside a 50 mile long space ship with all the political upheavals that would upset the original applecart.

Another one I'd love to see on the silver screen is "The Sparrow" by Mary Doria Russel about a trip to Alpha Centauri and the civilization they find there.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
I really liked that book. Didn't know it was considered for a film. Too bad it was shelved.
I would like to see Gene Wolf's 'Long Sun' series on film, a generational star ship story, 500 years inside a 50 mile long space ship with all the political upheavals that would upset the original applecart.

Another one I'd love to see on the silver screen is "Th ...[text shortened]... by Mary Doria Russel about a trip to Alpha Centauri and the civilization they find there.
What about another early Clark book titled 'The City and the Stars'. SF has so many awesome stories that would translate into films. Of course I can see budgets for these movies equalling Avatar, and unless you insert a predictable plot line and all the other crap that goes with big budget HW films like Titanic, Independence Day, ect.... they will most likely not get the $ backing.

Rendevous With Rama was going to be produced/co-produced by Morgan Freeman I believe? It would be great to see what they could possibly do with the shots inside Rama. Too bad Kubrick is not still around.

I'll check out the books you listed. Always up for a new read.

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Are you stupid?

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