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Originally posted by geniusI've never heard Bach play, though, so I can't tell whether he was a better player. His music is undoubtedly the greatest ever composed, though. (And he wasn't nearly all organ. His concerts for harpsichord are wonderful, as well. And then we're only looking at the keyboard instruments, at that. His cello suites... divine.)
scott joplin or bach.
okay, so bach is more organ stuff but it's still a keyboard. or three... 😛
Richard
Chopin and Rachmaninov always.
They are just two amazing composers and in their day the best pianists around.. Others wrote for and played many instrument,, these guys simply excelled.
There may be better players now but that would be like asking Clapton or someone else to play the music of the late Hendrix... it can't be the same.
Originally posted by Tirau Danstrange, even chopin was noted as having said he wished he had the technique of liszt
Chopin and Rachmaninov always.
They are just two amazing composers and in their day the best pianists around.. Others wrote for and played many instrument,, these guys simply excelled.
There may be better players now but that would be like asking Clapton or someone else to play the music of the late Hendrix... it can't be the same.
Originally posted by Tirau Danbut you could say the say as chopin playing the music of bach; which he did a lot... was that wrong of him to play music over 200 years old, and did he play it any worse than bach?
Chopin and Rachmaninov always.
They are just two amazing composers and in their day the best pianists around.. Others wrote for and played many instrument,, these guys simply excelled.
There may be better players now but that would be like asking Clapton or someone else to play the music of the late Hendrix... it can't be the same.
Originally posted by usmc7257He certainly is a great pianist in his own right. He is actually a close personal friend and we email each other a lot. I recently sent him my own CD of my own compositions on acoustic guitar, mandolin, and dulcimer, which he liked a lot. We have known each other for over 30 years now, since we both lived in Venice Beach, California. He really is a fan of Vince Geribaldi, who composed the Peanuts theme.
anyone heard of george winston? i like alot of his stuff.
Another pianist I love is Liz Story, anyone heard of her? She has some great CD's out, like Escape of the Circus Ponies and others. Great technique and inventivness. BTW, didn't anyone catch the sarcastic nature of the first post?
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Originally posted by eatmybishopSo maybe you personally would like to hear liszt play Bach if that were possible.. I love the piano music created by Chopin and Rachmaninov and give them extra kudos for creativity I guess.
but you could say the say as chopin playing the music of bach; which he did a lot... was that wrong of him to play music over 200 years old, and did he play it any worse than bach?
I grew up with Bach organ music.. which I enjoy.. Grandad had a large pipe organ at home, was the local organist at St Marys, Southampton for many many years and played at St Pauls.
ps pure coincidence.. was just listening to Franz Liszt's Mephisto Waltz (Vladimir Horowitz) Next track on my p/list was George Winston playing Walking on the Air.
Originally posted by kirksey957I don't know either, unless you had REALLY big hands. I heard Rach could reach 1.5 octaves, for example, middle C up to the G above high C. I play a bit, and I can just about reach the D above high C.
There is a story that Rachmaninov wore gloves before concerts because his hands were constantly cold because his fingers were so long. I don't know how you reach two octaves with one hand.
Originally posted by Shallow Bluenoone said about being the best player, meerly the best painist and to cut that down to meerly living ones you are, well, being boring...
I've never heard Bach play, though, so I can't tell whether he was a better player. His music is undoubtedly the greatest ever composed, though. (And he wasn't nearly all organ. His concerts for harpsichord are wonderful, as well. And then we're only looking at the keyboard instruments, at that. His cello suites... divine.)
Richard
and i think i meant that i like his organ stuff most-also, was he not an organist be trade? (this is JS we're talking about, right? 😛)
although my favourite piece is "air on the G string", a non-organ one.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageBob Seger
Who is it?
For me it is unquestionably Dieter Roth. Just listen to this example of his brilliance:
http://ubu.artmob.ca/sound/roth_dieter/musik/Roth-Dieter_Musik_01_Die-Radio-Sonate_1978.mp3
he played the piano in concert for the song "We've got Tonite"
it kicked...
since i probably can't support this claim to the general public with just one song...
i'll have to say sir Elton John...
Originally posted by geniusA pianist is a piano player, so how could the best pianist not be the best player? Of course the best pianist may have been someone who lived before you could make recordings, but that really makes it impossible for us to know how good they were.
noone said about being the best player, meerly the best painist
Originally posted by NordlysIn fact,in this context, I suppose there can be a diffrence. The best player is someone who can play (technically) in the best way. I hope you know that it is not the only thing that makes a musician.
A pianist is a piano player, so how could the best pianist not be the best player? Of course the best pianist may have been someone who lived before you could make recordings, but that really makes it impossible for us to know how good they were.