Originally posted by Derfel CadarnYes, even if they do so retrospectively, because it's deliberate.
They should also card for all of the acting that goes on as well.
My gripe is that the traditional skill of ball-winning is being forced out of the game by players being punished for mis-timing tackles etc. If it's an accident, a player should not be punished.
Originally posted by asromacalcioi do agree that those who have genuinely got the ball, or made an attempt to get the ball are being treated the same as those who indulging in violent conduct.
Yes, even if they do so retrospectively, because it's deliberate.
My gripe is that the traditional skill of ball-winning is being forced out of the game by players being punished for mis-timing tackles etc. If it's an accident, a player should not be punished.
blatter seems to want to drive out the art of tackling from the game.
Originally posted by chris stephensExactly. I know I've picked a bad day to say all this because it's distorted by my disappointment about England, but you are spot on there, and the face of the game is changing because of it. And because of it, honest players like Materazzi are being punished for basically, being good players but in a way that doesn't fit with FIFA's plans for the game.
i do agree that those who have genuinely got the ball, or made an attempt to get the ball are being treated the same as those who indulging in violent conduct.
blatter seems to want to drive out the art of tackling from the game.
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Originally posted by asromacalcioJust after Cisse joined Liverpool he was the victim of a "bad" tackle and is lucky to have two legs, never mind still to be playing football. A dangerous tackle is dangerous even if you get the ball, so really I don't think arguments like "it's changing the game" hold water. The game's changed dozens of times over the years, I don't think you'd want to see a return to the days of Chopper Harris, muddy pitches and the old leather balls.
Exactly. I know I've picked a bad day to say all this because it's distorted by my disappointment about England, but you are spot on there, and the face of the game is changing because of it. And because of it, honest players like Materazzi are being punished for basically, being good players but in a way that doesn't fit with FIFA's plans for the game.
Originally posted by DeepThoughtNo I wouldn't, but there's a long way to that from the decent free-flowing game I'd like to see where players are allowed to make challenges without being red-carded just because they mistime. Fact is, Dean Saunders Paul Elliott situations are rare. Unfair sendings off are getting all too common.
Just after Cisse joined Liverpool he was the victim of a "bad" tackle and is lucky to have two legs, never mind still to be playing football. A dangerous tackle is dangerous even if you get the ball, so really I don't think arguments like "it's changing the game" hold water. The game's changed dozens of times over the years, I don't think you'd ...[text shortened]... to see a return to the days of Chopper Harris, muddy pitches and the old leather balls.