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@blood-on-the-tracks said
I was putting forward a hypothetical situation. By your argument here, one 'dissenting ' pundit amongst any number makes VAR wrong to change it. Apparently.

As for your argument that Henderson's opinion carried more weight than Shearer's because he has won more, I assume you threw it in to be provocative. It is ludicrous.

By the way, do YOU believe it wasn't even a yellow card, as opined by your learned midfielder?
I agreed with the refs yellow. He jumped with his arms out to fend off the approaching defender from going through him, as most players do (with eyes on the ball).

He did not thrust an elbow at the opponent. There was no violent conduct or intent to injure.

A lot of similar incidents are described as orangish but there is no clear and obvious mistake for VAR to overrule. The overruling of the non clear and obvious just takes you back to the BS that was ruining EPL last season.




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This will go round in circles, but watch a few incidents where players thrust their elbow at the defender; sometimes causing sickening depressed fractures. There is none of that. The arm goes out with the jump, the elbow isn't thrust at the arriving player.


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Notice yourself taking your argument into the domain of the personal comment. It doesn't appear to others as you might believe and no it really isn't 'forensic forum analysis'.

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Something I rarely do unless provoked into reaction against a battery of personal comments.

Ignore the incident for a minute. Would you agree with the general principle that if fending off with the hand becomes confused with serious foul play the game would be reduced to a farce with red cards all over the place?

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If Chelsea take 3 points off City and we do the same it opens it up again though. I think people who are looking at the table and giving it to City didn't watch their performances against Arsenal and Wolves, but they are showing the getting over the line quality.

I argued with a friend who wanted a red for Mount flicking his foot toward Tsimikas when he was on the floor, a bit like the Beckham flick of the foot at Simeone in 98 that ruined the world cup.

We'll agree to differ, but in general I don't think lowering the threshold for reds helps football. I saw no elbow thrust into the face.

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@relentless-red said
The argument that if you add Jermaine Jenas to Alan Shearer you get 50 is just plain wrong.
Indeed it is.

You should, of course, have said 'add to 49 '. Neville is the 50th


@blood-on-the-tracks said
Indeed it is.

You should, of course, have said 'add to 49 '. Neville is the 50th
Can't argue with that. 😉

(Meanwhile in the real world the total was of course three pundits if you don't count Carra as he's ex-Liverpool, but he's pretty objective and doesn't always argue for Liverpool.)

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@Relentless-Red

Thanks for bringing us back to the 'real world '. You quite sure only 3 'pundits' passed opinion on the red card? Don't have Sky myself, but was Neville the only 'pundit' on there for that game? Must be other outlets too.

As for 'Carra', yep, lovable scouser. Unbiased. Prone to spit at other fans who dare to taunt him about Liverpool losses despite that lack of bias. Nice.

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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/football/sadio-mane-chelsea-liverpool-496072

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