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What is the difference between a chess data base, and a chess engine? Why is the data base legal to use and the engine is not?

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Originally posted by eddiedean
What is the difference between a chess data base, and a chess engine? Why is the data base legal to use and the engine is not?
The database only goes so far. The openings are predictable, to an extent, but you won't find a database of endgames - the combinations are too huge.

Using a database for the first four or five moves brings you up to scratch with the player who can remember all that stuff.
Using an engine .. that's just cheating.

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Originally posted by orangutan
The database only goes so far. The openings are predictable, to an extent, but you won't find a database of endgames - the combinations are too huge.

Using a database for the first four or five moves brings you up to scratch with the player who can remember all that stuff.
Using an engine .. that's just cheating.
Thanks, so an engine just kind of does the thinking for you?

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Originally posted by eddiedean
What is the difference between a chess data base, and a chess engine? Why is the data base legal to use and the engine is not?
In short:

An engine gives you the best move in any given situation. Which means you aren't playing chess, the engine is - you're just moving the pieces around the board for it.

A database just shows a comparison of moves from a given situation - usually just the opening of a game. Even if you continuously copy the most common moves, you're still deciding which moves to make.

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Originally posted by Daemon Sin
Even if you continuously copy the most common moves, you're still deciding which moves to make.
Technically, you are deciding which move to make. If you just copy the moves without knowing why they are played that way, you are not playing, you are playing somebody elses moves.

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Originally posted by eddiedean
What is the difference between a chess data base, and a chess engine? Why is the data base legal to use and the engine is not?
There's no difference.
Nor is there any difference between using a data-base, an engine or getting 12 friends to sit around your monitor and help you.
Nor is there any difference between being schitzophrenic and having voices tell you what to do.

It's hypocrisy. Clear and simple.
Feeble minded TOSsers wagging their finger while they download their music, smoke their marijuana and lie to their girlfriends.

Screw them. And screw them rightiously!

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Originally posted by shavixmir
There's no difference.
Nor is there any difference between using a data-base, an engine or getting 12 friends to sit around your monitor and help you.
Nor is there any difference between being schitzophrenic and having voices tell you what to do.

It's hypocrisy. Clear and simple.
Feeble minded TOSsers wagging their finger while they download thei ...[text shortened]... moke their marijuana and lie to their girlfriends.

Screw them. And screw them rightiously!
And what's up with downloading music I ask! 😠

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Originally posted by jimslyp69
And what's up with downloading music I ask! 😠
Are you simple?

There's nothing wrong with downloading music, if there's nothing wrong with cheating while playing chess.

Your choice big boy.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
There's no difference.
Nor is there any difference between using a data-base, an engine or getting 12 friends to sit around your monitor and help you.
Nor is there any difference between being schitzophrenic and having voices tell you what to do.

It's hypocrisy. Clear and simple.
Feeble minded TOSsers wagging their finger while they download thei ...[text shortened]... moke their marijuana and lie to their girlfriends.

Screw them. And screw them rightiously!
That sounds like the best answer yet!

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Originally posted by eddiedean
That sounds like the best answer yet!
It's the honest answer amongst the hypocritical poo you have do wade through here.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Are you simple?

There's nothing wrong with downloading music, if there's nothing wrong with cheating while playing chess.

Your choice big boy.
I wish I was simple. I sometimes think that this would be so much easier than being complicated and f***ed up.
I just think that you used a bad analogy that's all.
PS Thanks for calling me big boy, but I think this huge distortion of the truth completely destroys all of your credibility.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
It's the honest answer amongst the hypocritical poo you have do wade through here.
Fair enough!

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Originally posted by jimslyp69
I wish I was simple. I sometimes think that this would be so much easier than being complicated and f***ed up.
I just think that you used a bad analogy that's all.
PS Thanks for calling me big boy, but I think this huge distortion of the truth completely destroys all of your credibility.
Dude. I could strip here, dance on my head, puke out a policy Us foreing policy and it won't lose me credibitly.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Dude. I could strip here, dance on my head, puke out a policy Us foreing policy and it won't lose me credibitly.
*waits

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Originally posted by jimslyp69
*waits
I have the video camera. We can put this on youtube.