Originally posted by D43M0NYes,of course people are tired of it.People were tired of it long before these bible study threads,that's why the debates forum was created.But apparently RB was chased away there......
Now, tis wasn't meant as a flaming thread...just an idea and personal thoughts...
RBHill (mr R. Benny Hill?) has some points, Fievel and SirLoseaLot others, but that's beside the point.
Are people tired of seeing religious posts going into general forums, and should there be a Religion Forum?
Originally posted by RBHILLYep, Christ did call people hypocrites...but if memory serves me; the context is mostly be not as the hypocrites who were doing things like having trumpters precede them before they gave alms, or praying very loudly and piously but then in secret did????
Well he him self called people names like hypocrite.
I read more of the responding posts and I ask myself: What is RHBill's purpose? To stir up trouble as some think or to share your faith with others and to encourage them into the fold. I ask you: What do you accomplish by generating hostility?
One more question; Do you recall Christ ever hanging out with people who did not want him or forcing his ideas on people? Yes, I remember the outburst at the temple. So skip that and tell me what drew people to faith....judgment, condemnation, put-downs?
God be with you.
Originally posted by AynatGets my rec.
Yep, Christ did call people hypocrites...but if memory serves me; the context is mostly be not as the hypocrites who were doing things like having trumpters precede them before they gave alms, or praying very loudly and piously but then in secret did????
I read more of the responding posts and I ask myself: What is RHBill's purpose? To stir up trouble as s ...[text shortened]... and tell me what drew people to faith....judgment, condemnation, put-downs?
God be with you.
skeeter
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D43MON is quite entitled to make a request for a religion specific forum - then it is up to Russ et al to consider whether this is necessary.
I am not a religious person and I don't like being preached to. But that's the thing with forums, you have the choice to ignore posts you don't agree with/care about.
It's not as if RBHill is standing on your doorstep or phoning you up (yes, I know, it does feel like that sometimes D43MON).
By taking the bait that RBHill and others dangle on the end of their lines, you are giving them the ammunition they need to preach right back at you.
Originally posted by CribsI guess my position is that yes we are like God made us, with free will and the option to decide the difference between right and wrong. I am not saying that mankind should unite to undergo an absurd prolect such as building a tower to heaven, i am only saying that we do need to listen to each other. We have missiles pointed in every direction, hostilities are at a high imagine if all it took to avoid war was a simple handshake and an I'm sorry. just imagine
Is it your position that new languages have not evolved over time.
In other words, they are just as God made them, like people and animals?
Dr. Cribs
Originally posted by ivanhoeFor once I agree with you, Ivanhoe, religious posts should be in the debates forum. We don't need a separate forum for them.
Every subject that may cause debate should be in the debates forum. One of the reasons the debates forum was created was to keep the philosophy/religion/politics issues from the General forum.
Originally posted by rwingettNot all religious threads are debates, though. A debate is initiated when someone posts a series of points that he or she wants challenged. I am not entirely sure, but I don't think RBHill wants his threads to be challenged.
For once I agree with you, Ivanhoe, religious posts should be in the debates forum. We don't need a separate forum for them.
Preaching is not ideal. On a crowded street, you cannot tell who wants to hear what you are saying, and who doesn't. For this reason, it is best just to inform people about what you are offering. If someone offers you a deal, you can take it or leave it, however it's a different story when that deal is never offered.
We can ignore RBHill's threads (and others of the likes), but why should we have to? If we don't want to look at debates, we don't visit the Debates forum, if we don't want to ask for help, we don't visit the Help & Site Ideas forum. Most of these things are already separated because of the large amount of that particular type of thread. If there was a massive flooding in all forums about any particular thing, does it not make sense to separate them all out, so that those who are not interested in this thing can browse without the worry of constantly hearing about it?
Originally posted by rwingettBible study spam should NOT be in the debates forum. If it should be in a forum, it should have it's own which is the first thing i said when RBHILL started this crapola last week. Actually, bible study spam shouldn't be on RHP at all but a separate RELIGION and PHILOSOPHY forum would be fine. Coletti's post about e-sword as a bible study tool was fine here as it requires no answer from readers and not one of you "anti-religion" posters complained. Actually, RBHILL's post requires NO answer or discussion UNLESS you are "following" the study (as a christian). Until someone can present a case that the ORIGINAL topic is meant for debate or even open discussion, i don't blame the mods one bit for placing the post here and I will not blame them for keeping it here. Some might argue that a debate ensued. i will say that they are somewhat correct. The ensuing debate is NOT following the original topic and for the most part the debates are NOT properly called debates, they are mere generalizations and arguments. Let's just put this "bible study" in a religion and philosophy forum or just deal with it here until Russ decides to add a forum.
For once I agree with you, Ivanhoe, religious posts should be in the debates forum. We don't need a separate forum for them.
Feivel