Originally posted by rapalla7But where is the solution? Should we move any religion thread from General into Debates once things get heated?
phla-
Would'nt it be redundant to have a religious bible study on this site. Is the web not full of places already for this type of activity?
I do agree about the religious questions being in the debates. The only problem is with people who are there for other reasons but to cause problems, and not being there to learn something.
The religiouse ...[text shortened]... pic.
Even Ivanhoe and Feivel can get along.....(crosses fingers)
My two cents.
Mike
Or should we remove any posts made where people try to debate in a general forum?
I don't think Russ wants another forum, so don't worry too much... Just trying to express why I think one would be an asset to both sides of this debate.
P-
Originally posted by PhlabibitIf there were a separate Religion forum I would remove every post where someone cam in just to start debating. I think a religion forum would be a great place for some topics like Week studies etc... People could go there and actually participate in the thread, rather than listening to someone come in a not agree with any of it.
I find it insulting when someone tells me I will go to Hell cuz I don't agree with them.
I don't think a separate religion forum would hurt, but no one can say it doesn't belong in Debates forums.
Here is where I see a problem. A relgion thread in General Forums?! You know it will become a debate!
If there were a separate Religion forum I wou ...[text shortened]... the only reason I would want to separate it from General forums.
Just my 2 cents, bub!
P-
I fully agree.
Feivel
Originally posted by rapalla7Would'nt it be redundant to have a religious bible study on this site. Is the web not full of places already for this type of activity?
phla-
Would'nt it be redundant to have a religious bible study on this site. Is the web not full of places already for this type of activity?
I do agree about the religious questions being in the debates. The only problem is with people who are there for other reasons but to cause problems, and not being there to learn something.
The religiouse ...[text shortened]... pic.
Even Ivanhoe and Feivel can get along.....(crosses fingers)
My two cents.
Mike
It is redundant since there are many studies on the web but unless you advocate censorship how can you refuse to allow religious topics? As I said in the past religious debates are fine in the debates forum (as are heated discussion) bible studies and evangelism should only be allowed in a seperate forum. Even then evangelism might be a problamatic subject because in a religion forum, religions with beliefs other than christianity would be allowed. Maybe a restriction disallowing evangelism would be called for.
Feivel
Originally posted by FeivelYour zealous crusade to remove the Bible studies is evangelism
Maybe a restriction disallowing evangelism would be called for.
Feivel
according to Merriam-Webster, which gives one definition of evangelism
as:
"militant or crusading zeal"
By the way, how do you like my Atheist Sandbox idea?
Dr. Cribs
Originally posted by CribsAnother off topic smokescreen for someone. If you disagree with what I say, refurte it or post your views. Don't post off topic drivel and expect anyone to give you any creedence.
Your zealous crusade to remove the Bible studies [b]is evangelism
according to Merriam-Webster, which gives one definition of evangelism
as:
"militant or crusading zeal"
By the way, how do you like my Atheist Sandbox idea?
Dr. Cribs[/b]
BTW, in case you haven't figured it out yet...until and unless you start posting comment that are on topic, i am NOT going to waste my time with you.
Feivel
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Originally posted by FeivelI did disagree with what you said, my post was a clear refutation,
Another off topic smokescreen for someone. If you disagree with what I say, refurte it or post your views. Don't post off topic drivel and expect anyone to give you any creedence.
and it was quite on topic.
This post is the same.
P.S. By the way, I love you too.
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Originally posted by FeivelFeivel: "........ i am NOT going to waste my time with you."
Another off topic smokescreen for someone. If you disagree with what I say, refurte it or post your views. Don't post off topic drivel and expect anyone to give you any creedence.
BTW, in case you haven't figured it out yet...until and ...[text shortened]... are on topic, i am NOT going to waste my time with you.
Feivel
Cribs,
Of course you are right that feivel's posts are a form of evangelism. And everyone who states a point he cannot contradict because it is so obviously true or because he simply does not have an answer, will be put on Feivel's "ignore" list. 😀
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Originally posted by Cribs
Your zealous crusade to remove the Bible studies [b]is evangelism
according to Merriam-Webster, which gives one definition of evangelism
as:
"militant or crusading zeal"
By the way, how do you like my Atheist Sandbox idea?
Dr. Cribs[/b]
Here is the rest.
Main Entry: evan·ge·lism
Pronunciation: i-'van-j&-"li-z&m
Function: noun
1 : the winning or revival of personal commitments to Christ
2 : militant or crusading zeal
- evan·ge·lis·tic /-"van-j&-'lis-tik/ adjective
- evan·ge·lis·ti·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb
And to think you told me before that I could not twist the meaning of a word by selective definition. And You are using it out of context to the subject.
Please be more clear when giving the definition of a word, it can lead to mis-understandings.
For shame 😞
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Originally posted by rapalla7You got it wrong. I told you nothing of the sort before.
Here is the rest.
Main Entry: evan·ge·lism
Pronunciation: i-'van-j&-"li-z&m
Function: noun
1 : the winning or revival of personal commitments to Christ
2 : militant or crusading zeal
- evan·ge·lis·tic /-"van-j&-'lis-tik/ adje ...[text shortened]... nd You are using it out of context to the subject.
For shame 😞
What we have is a word with two definitions.
Word W can mean A or B.
Logically speaking, when you have observed A, you have then observed W.
And, when you have observed B, you have also observed W.
I claim that since I have observed his zealous crusade, I have observed
evangelism. That is irrefutable if we accept M-W as a source of word meanings.
In the prior incident that you refer to, we also had a word with
multiple definitions. You misused that definition to claim that:
When you have observed W, you have then observed A.
This is not necessarily true, which I pointed out to you in the incident
that you refer to. When you did this, you were "twisting the meaning
by selective definition"
When I made my observation here, I was not doing this, but
simply applying the definition in a logically correct way. I stand
by my claim that Feivel is evangelizing.
Dr. Cribs
P.S. Keep an eye out for royalchicken's upcoming lessons on
deduction. You could certainly benefit from them if you don't
see the difference between these two cases.
Originally posted by CribsI will conceed. There go those dang letters you use as freely as starvally throws around his percentages.😉
You got it wrong. I told you nothing of the sort before.
What we have is a word with two definitions.
Word W can mean A or B.
Logically speaking, when you have observed A, you have then observed W.
And, when you have observed B, you have also observed W.
I claim that since I have observed his zealous crusade, I have observed
evangelism. That is irr ...[text shortened]... You could certainly benefit from them if you don't
see the difference between these two cases.
Evangelizing to what end?
In two years I cannot remember a time when their were so many damaged relationships here. It is really too bad.
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Originally posted by rapalla7Evangelizing to his selfish end of not having to see
Evangelizing to what end?
Bible study posts. I use the term selfish in the sense
that nothing in the terms of service prohibits it, so
his only real grounds for complaint is that he himself
(along with some others) doesn't like it.
If his complaint is a valid one, then it also must be true
that I have a valid complaint about people posting about
politics, since I don't like to see politics threads.
It's as simple as that. He's complaining because the forums
aren't perfect in his eyes. But if everyone were to do that,
and if all of those complaints were catered to, we would
have either no forums left, or hundreds of specialized
forums. To deny this means that Feivel deserves some
special treatment to have his complaint catered to, while
nobody else deserves that same treatment.
Dr. Cribs