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Originally posted by CrowleyThis is just another form of pathetic finger pointing. It's up to the parents to teach their children what good eating habits are. An occasional happy meal never killed anybody. But if people want to shirk their parental responsibilities and stick their kids' noses in the McDonald's feed trough every night, then they have no one else to blame but themselves when their kids turn out to be the size of a brontosaurus. If parents are unable, or unwilling, to raise their children properly, then maybe they shouldn't have had them in the first place. There are no excuses. Responsibility begins with the individual.
You're missing the point here.
I'm not pointing a 'pudgey' finger at McDonalds or any other company for making adults fat. I'm talking about the schemes targeted at the kids. They wanna have McDonalds to get a stupid toy (the same go ...[text shortened]... and therefore the kids get the junk food and they become hooked.
Originally posted by rwingettSo YOU are now pointing your "pathetic", yet lean I presume, finger at the parents now, right? And partly reinforcing my initial point.
This is just another form of pathetic finger pointing. It's up to the parents to teach their children what good eating habits are. An occasional happy meal never killed anybody. But if people want to shirk their parental responsibilities and stick their kids' noses in the McDonald's feed trough [b]every night, then they have no one else to bla ...[text shortened]... e had them in the first place. There are no excuses. Responsibility begins with the individual. [/b]
The parents don't have the time or whatever reason they give - and the marketers of these products basically brainwash the kids to convince their parents to "stick their kids' noses in the McDonald's feed trough".
Never had BK, M, KFC?
NEVER even wanted to see what the fuss was about? WOW!
I must say, the junk foods (including the Italian ones, but they aren't really the culprits) are great. Me, as a responsible adult can really enjoy it. BUT I also enjoy home cooking and cooking for myself. The fast food (like the name suggests) just sometimes wins the battle because it's so easy, especially when you're in a hurry.
When I get kids, I hope I can be strong enough to do the right thing.
But it wasn't easy for me growing up. My dad just loves his BBQ, and his favourite food is barbequeing lamb or steak (he actually considers chicken to be a vegetable - he's a funny guy)
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Originally posted by CrowleyRubbish. I am not blaming my faults on anyone, which is what I mean by "pointing one's finger". I am saying that the ultimate responsibility of teaching one's children good eating habits belongs with the parents. I am saying that the responsibility of one's own eating habits as an adult belong with the individual. People seem to think that advertisers are like some kind of modern day Svengali with the supposed ability to "brainwash" people into becoming zombie-like customers. McDonald's may have the ability to exert some influence on the choices children make, but McDonald's does not ultimately make the decision of where a family is going to eat on a given night. The parents do. They are the ones who are responsible for monitoring the eating habits of their children.
So YOU are now pointing your "pathetic", yet lean I presume, finger at the parents now, right? And partly reinforcing my initial point.
The parents don't have the time or whatever reason they give - and the marketers of these products b ...[text shortened]... ts to "stick their kids' noses in the McDonald's feed trough".
Originally posted by rwingettI agree with you....the adults are the ones who are responsible for there kids, and one way to get them to talk about BK and McD's is to let them watch LESS TV that way they see less commercials about the fast food places and they for get about it (not completely but some times) and they will put up less of a fight and the parents will be able to control them easer.
Rubbish. I am not blaming my faults on anyone, which is what I mean by "pointing one's finger". I am saying that the ultimate responsibility of teaching one's children good eating habits belongs with the parents. I am saying that the responsibility of one's eating habits as an adult belong with the individual. People seem to think that advertisers are ...[text shortened]... ts do. They are the ones who are responsible for monitoring the eating habits of their children.
Anyone argee?
-Adam
Originally posted by rwingettHave you read through the whole thread? On the 1st page Varg posted that he knows of a school where McDonalds sponsored the cafeteria.
Rubbish. I am not blaming my faults on anyone, which is what I mean by "pointing one's finger". I am saying that the ultimate responsibility of teaching one's children good eating habits belongs with the parents. I am saying that the responsibility of one's own eating habits as an adult belong with the individual. People seem to think that advertisers ...[text shortened]... ts do. They are the ones who are responsible for monitoring the eating habits of their children.
What about the kids, maybe having good eating habits instilled at home, hanging out at the mall with their friends. Everyone goes to McDonalds for a snack, except this one kid, because his parents said that he needs his veggies. Are you gonna argue the effects of peer pressure as well?
Originally posted by rwingettUh, Rob, you're starting to sound like a Republican. 😀 Kirk
This is just another form of pathetic finger pointing. It's up to the parents to teach their children what good eating habits are. An occasional happy meal never killed anybody. But if people want to shirk their parental responsibilities and stick their kids' noses in the McDonald's feed trough [b]every night, then they have no one else to bla ...[text shortened]... e had them in the first place. There are no excuses. Responsibility begins with the individual. [/b]
Originally posted by CrowleyI'v never heard of peer pressure aplyed to fast food before🙄
Have you read through the whole thread? On the 1st page Varg posted that he knows of a school where McDonalds sponsored the cafeteria.
What about the kids, maybe having good eating habits instilled at home, hanging out at the mall with their friends. Everyone goes to McDonalds for a snack, except this one kid, because his parents said that he needs his veggies. Are you gonna argue the effects of peer pressure as well?
I eat veggies and stuff (includeing broccoli and brusselspouts...yumm)
peer pressure is something I'd reserve for Drugs and similer stuff.
-Adam
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Originally posted by UncleAdamPeer pressure can apply to almost anything.
I'v never heard of peer pressure aplyed to fast food before🙄
I eat veggies and stuff (includeing broccoli and brusselspouts...yumm)
peer pressure is something I'd reserve for Drugs and similer stuff.
-Adam
When I was at school, trainers was the big thing. People were ridiculed for wearing cheaper, 'inferior' brands.
PS. For our american friends 🙂 by trainers I mean sneakers or running shoes (had a real life confusion about this the other day 🙂
Originally posted by CrowleyAs someone with lifelong weight concerns, I have to come down on rwingett's side on this issue. Sure, there will always be external influences such as advertising and peer pressure, but in the end, food choices and portion sizes are entirely ours to control. As young children, we have to rely on our parents for proper nutrition and education, but overweight older teens or adults really have no one to blame but themselves....
Everyone goes to McDonalds for a snack, except this one kid, because his parents said that he needs his veggies. Are you gonna argue the effects of peer pressure as well?
Originally posted by CrowleyNo, the thread was about the marketing of fast food in general. The supposed school incident is something completely different.
Have you read through the whole thread? On the 1st page Varg posted that he knows of a school where McDonalds sponsored the cafeteria.
What about the kids, maybe having good eating habits instilled at home, hanging out at the mall with their friends. Everyone goes to McDonalds for a snack, except this one kid, because his parents said that he needs his veggies. Are you gonna argue the effects of peer pressure as well?
If your hypothetical kid wants to go to McDonald's with his friends, then let him. A trip to McDonalds once in a while isn't going to kill anyone. It is possible to eat there on occasion without turning into a zeppelin.
Originally posted by UncleAdamHey, at least your good eating habits will cancel out your drug habit.
I'v never heard of peer pressure aplyed to fast food before🙄
I eat veggies and stuff (includeing broccoli and brusselspouts...yumm)
peer pressure is something I'd reserve for Drugs and similer stuff.
-Adam
Yeah, peer pressure is all around us, it would (according to me) definately influence a kids' decision in the scenario above. Just like the same kid hanging at the mall, being passing the spliff by a buddy, although his parents have educated and talked to him about drugs.
Originally posted by rwingettThe thing about the school was a distraction.
No, the thread was about the marketing of fast food in general. The supposed school incident is something completely different.
If your hypothetical kid wants to go to McDonald's with his friends, then let him. A trip to McDonalds once in a while isn't going to kill anyone. It [b]is possible to eat there on occasion without turning into a zeppelin. [/b]
I completely agree with you about personal responsibility. Like the guy who sued the fast food companies because he ate them every day and got fat!
But on the other hand, whilst the companies aren't forcing anyone to eat, they do deliberately target kids, knowing they will make life misey for their parents until they get what they want. Yes, the parents are weak, but it's a bit sinister of the companies to exploit them in my opinion.