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Originally posted by FreakyKBH

Additionally, I submit that truth is not beholden to a democratic process.
We agree on that.

But those in the minority normally have to do the persuading.


Originally posted by FreakyKBH
I demand a recount.
Those who have voted are unqualified on the topic.

Additionally, I submit that truth is not beholden to a democratic process.
Is truth beholden to overwhelming evidence?


Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Is truth beholden to overwhelming evidence?
Yes, of course it is.
This is why it such a glaring issue: the global proponents completely unable to support their case.


Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Yes, of course it is.
This is why it such a glaring issue: the global proponents completely unable to support their case.
Are all astronauts lying? Are they all part of an international conspiracy? Is all live footage from space fake? Are all the brilliant scientists around the world lying or misguided?

Sometimes my friend you need to stand on the shoulders of giants, not kick them in the nuts.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
If you're addressing me, I've not said the earth is an oblate spheroid; that's from that "genius" Neil deGrasse Tyson.
He actually declared the earth to be somewhat pear-shaped.
Guess he hasn't seen all of those perfectly round circles NASA has produced over the years...
The sun is much, much closer than we think.
How much closer is the sun than we think? That would have implications of the actual diameter of the sun also, so how big is the sun?

How do you explain the fact that the Russians, the Chinese, and the Americans have circumnavigated the moon with either manned craft or robots and see no flatness there?

Is there some world wide conspiracy that all three countries would be lying for some reason?

This is not just a NASA thing, I think even ESA has put orbiters around the moon. And Mars and no flatness is noted there either. So is the entire scientific world lying and only you know the truth?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
]How do you explain the fact that the Russians, the Chinese, and the Americans have circumnavigated the moon with either manned craft or robots and see no flatness there?

I've spent much of the last quarter of an hour researching flat earth and the
evidence is mounting. Why is the horizon always at eye-level? Even when I'm
sitting down! And if the Pacific were curved wouldn't the West coast of America
get flooded? (Water is always FLAT).

I have no doubt that craft have gone around the moon (which is also fflat). What
does that prove? The whole solar system is flat.


Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Are all astronauts lying? Are they all part of an international conspiracy? Is all live footage from space fake? Are all the brilliant scientists around the world lying or misguided?

Sometimes my friend you need to stand on the shoulders of giants, not kick them in the nuts.
Are all astronauts lying?
Are all astronauts Freemasons?

Are they all part of an international conspiracy?
There is definitely a conspiracy, although I don't think it requires as many people as you'd think.

Is all live footage from space fake?
The majority of it is, yes.
Since initially begun in 1998--- 18 years?!?--- NASA has yet to show any "live" or recorded events from the craft in excess of ten minutes in duration which has not been altered, edited or free of inexplicable glitches.

Are all the brilliant scientists around the world lying or misguided?
Is truth/reality a democracy?

You realize, I hope, how closely your line of questioning resembles the rationale used in the brainwashing of the German public employed by Hitler's administration?
Speaking of Hitler and Nazi's... it's probably just a remote coincidence that NASA pivoted on Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun, former SS member.

But I digress...

A few questions for you, if you're inclined.

1) Does a conscious false representation poison the entire well?
2) Why has NASA considered it necessary to consciously present falsity as facts?
3) Why does the rate of curvature for the earth not line up with repeated tests for the same?


Originally posted by sonhouse
How much closer is the sun than we think? That would have implications of the actual diameter of the sun also, so how big is the sun?

How do you explain the fact that the Russians, the Chinese, and the Americans have circumnavigated the moon with either manned craft or robots and see no flatness there?

Is there some world wide conspiracy that all thre ...[text shortened]... ness is noted there either. So is the entire scientific world lying and only you know the truth?
The sun is close enough to cause hot spots on the surface, but otherwise there are a few schools of thought on its proximity to earth.
I recommend you to research the topic for yourself.

How do you explain the fact that the Russians, the Chinese, and the Americans have circumnavigated the moon with either manned craft or robots and see no flatness there?
On the first point, I do not believe any such missions took place.
On the second point, I have not espoused a belief of the moon as a disc.

Is there some world wide conspiracy that all three countries would be lying for some reason?
What is the annual NASA budget, in US dollars?


Originally posted by wolfgang59
I've spent much of the last quarter of an hour researching flat earth and the
evidence is mounting. Why is the horizon always at eye-level? Even when I'm
sitting down! And if the Pacific were curved wouldn't the West coast of America
get flooded? (Water is always FLAT).

I have no doubt that craft have gone around the moon (which is also fflat). What
does that prove? The whole solar system is flat.
In your research, you should look into the rate of curvature so you can finally offer a supporting argument to your charge.


Originally posted by FreakyKBH
[b]Are all astronauts lying?
Are all astronauts Freemasons?

Are they all part of an international conspiracy?
There is definitely a conspiracy, although I don't think it requires as many people as you'd think.

Is all live footage from space fake?
The majority of it is, yes.
Since initially begun in 1998--- 18 years?!?--- NASA ha ...[text shortened]... ?
3) Why does the rate of curvature for the earth not line up with repeated tests for the same?[/b]
Oh dear.

Comparisons to Hitler are of course universally understood as the desperate (losing) end to any conversation. (You do realize that?)


Originally posted by FreakyKBH
[b]Are all astronauts lying?
Are all astronauts Freemasons?

Are they all part of an international conspiracy?
There is definitely a conspiracy, although I don't think it requires as many people as you'd think.

Is all live footage from space fake?
The majority of it is, yes.
Since initially begun in 1998--- 18 years?!?--- NASA ha ...[text shortened]... ?
3) Why does the rate of curvature for the earth not line up with repeated tests for the same?[/b]
You never did answer my questions about the South Pole. This one will suffice to start - where does the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station reside on a flat earth?

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
[b]Are all astronauts lying?
Are all astronauts Freemasons?

Are they all part of an international conspiracy?
There is definitely a conspiracy, although I don't think it requires as many people as you'd think.

Is all live footage from space fake?
The majority of it is, yes.
Since initially begun in 1998--- 18 years?!?--- NASA ha ...[text shortened]... ?
3) Why does the rate of curvature for the earth not line up with repeated tests for the same?[/b]
There is definitely a conspiracy, although I don't think it requires as many people as you'd think.

Give us a number of how many people you believe would need to be involved in this conspiracy.

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Oh dear.

Comparisons to Hitler are of course universally understood as the desperate (losing) end to any conversation. (You do realize that?)
its actually a type of fallacy, Reductio ad Hitlerum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum


Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Oh dear.

Comparisons to Hitler are of course universally understood as the desperate (losing) end to any conversation. (You do realize that?)
Well, if you mean to say you shouldn't have used that line of questioning, then I can overlook it.


Originally posted by Proper Knob
[b]There is definitely a conspiracy, although I don't think it requires as many people as you'd think.

Give us a number of how many people you believe would need to be involved in this conspiracy.[/b]
Give us a number of how many people constitute the "us" to which you refer.

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