Originally posted by no1marauderI think what you meant to say was that in your opinion Chris was wrong. Fine. You have a right to say that and while I disagree I will defend your right to say that, but not necessarily ad nauseum.
Chris was wrong. And he remains wrong as the utter inability for anyone to formulate a rationale for why a picture of Kunta Kinte is "offensive" and "racist" shows.
Chris' short-tempered response was unfortunate.
You, of all people, who glorify many people who leave this site for utterly petty reasons or are tossed off for ...[text shortened]... good ones are a complete hypocrite for now supporting the "love it or leave it" standard.
I'm not going to get sucked into this cesspool of a "debate"
This will probably be my last post on the subject.
I want to comment on one statement by you:
"the utter inability for anyone to formulate a rationale for why a picture of Kunta Kinte is "offensive" and "racist"
Context. Context. Context.
A white guy, pretending to be black, joins an organization of other white guys pretending to be black gangsters and pimps and uses as his avatar a picture of a black slave in chains and you can see no reason that anyone would find that offensive?
Originally posted by no1marauderIf Chris was so wrong, why don't you just spank him then? You're a sick, sick man. #1.
Chris was wrong. And he remains wrong as the utter inability for anyone to formulate a rationale for why a picture of Kunta Kinte is "offensive" and "racist" shows.
Chris' short-tempered response was unfortunate.
You, of all people, who glorify many people who leave this site for utterly petty reasons or are tossed off for ...[text shortened]... good ones are a complete hypocrite for now supporting the "love it or leave it" standard.
Originally posted by KewpieHave they always been open to all children? I believe that the reform towards racial harmony in Oz only started in the late 60s, so it's difficult to be sure which type of school elame attended.
Government-run schools in Australia are open to all children.
Why do you keep up with the racial sniping? You sound just like a racist. Are you a racist?
And if you can't understand why the subject of race is being discussed then you have clearly missed the point of elame's crusade. I'm insulted at your insinuation that I'm a racist. That was completely uncalled for.
Originally posted by Red NightIt's (thankfully) almost a historical term now, but the term was certainly used in abundance when I was in school during our reformation. It might be a little bit further back in your memory, as an American. Nevertheless, it is a valid question as elame was in school during a time of Australian reformation. I don't know if they had separate schools back then for non-whites. Do you?
There was something eerie about the way he used the term "mixed race school"
Sent a shiver up my spine.
Originally posted by Red NightIn other words, there should be a different standard for BWA avatars than for other users' here.
I think what you meant to say was that in your opinion Chris was wrong. Fine. You have a right to say that and while I disagree I will defend your right to say that, but not necessarily ad nauseum.
I'm not going to get sucked into this cesspool of a "debate"
This will probably be my last post on the subject.
I want to comment on one stateme ...[text shortened]... slave in chains [b]and you can see no reason that anyone would find that offensive?[/b]
As I said, this is just a continuation of a petty vendetta. An avatar of Kunta Kinte is not offensive or racist in any context.
Originally posted by Elamef37Throw what in my face? Whatever it was, you missed.
Excuse me, but a number of times, he has intimated I am ignorant. I was being sarcy, and just thought, I'd throw it in his face.
Perhaps you should read on Aboriginal History in this country, and then you'll see where I'm coming from.
Also, I've tried reading on Aboriginal history and SO MUCH of it has been covered up. Surely you'd know that, at least?
Originally posted by tomtom232We will just have to re name you the Professor ignorance then. How's your Uncle Tom? #1 taking good care of you?
Stop holding double standards. You can't say you weren't ignorant of the show roots and then come back and say he is ignorant for not knowing you didn't learn about african history.
I feel sorry that you didn't learn anything about african history in school. That means there is a huge gap in your education because Africa is covered extensively in most s ...[text shortened]... on, a conversation you shouldn't even take part since you are ignorant of african history.
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Originally posted by no1marauderI never said that. You are making that up. You must have your Propaganda machine wide open today, or you must have me mixed up with someone else. However since you brought it up, I have my opinion but now is not the time for me to give it to you. Come back when you are being truthful.
You previously stated that pictures of Nazi victims in camps was "anti-Semitic" just like you believe that photos of slaves in chains are "racist". Since you want to censor images from Roots by logical extension you'd also want to censor images from Schindler's List. That's what you have implied unless what you really mean is that certain rules should be applied to BWA members but not for others.
Originally posted by cashthetrashRed Night said it here: http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=113640&page=26
I never said that. You are making that up. You must have your Propaganda machine wide open today. You must have me mixed up with someone else. However since you brought it up, I have my opinion but now is not the time for me to give it to you. Come back when you are being truthful.
You're his Charley McCarthy; if you think he's wrong, say so.
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Originally posted by hopscotchI am 64 years old, and began school in 1951. There were aboriginal children among the kids in my class, as there were immigrant children. We regarded the "balts" (this slang has an obvious explanation since a large number of refugees came from the Baltic States) as the "others", the dark-skinned kids were on our side of the fence. The only sorting of schools that I remember was by gender in the private secondary schools, because so many of them took boarders. We didn't exactly have racial disharmony, it was more institutionalised ignorance which translated into things like job preference, and these were the things which got reformed in the 1960s and later.
Have they always been open to all children? I believe that the reform towards racial harmony in Oz only started in the late 60s, so it's difficult to be sure which type of school elame attended.
And if you can't understand why the subject of race is being discussed then you have clearly missed the point of elame's crusade. I'm insulted at your insinuation that I'm a racist. That was completely uncalled for.
I understand why the "subject of race is being discussed", and I haven't missed the point of Elamef37's argument, which is that her ethnicity is being used against her in a negative way. If you're not a racist, you've certainly been posting in a way that raises that possibility.
Originally posted by KewpieYou just expressed my point about double standards perfectly.
Australia was a British colony which remained within the British system. Queensland schools traditionally taught only three streams in primary school - English, Mathematics, Social Studies - while Victorian schools had History classes from Year 5 onward. (I attended both.) The "history" taught us was British, with a few scrappy bits of Commonwealth thrown ...[text shortened]... ssumptions are incorrect. We may share a common language (sort-of), but that's about it.