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Greatest Red Sox team of all time?

Greatest Red Sox team of all time?

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I vote for the 1912 world champs. Walter Johnson called 34 game winner Smokey Joe Wood the greatest pitcher he ever saw, (before Smokey got drunk and fell off a street car ending his carreer.)
Tris speaker in center!
Duffy Lewis.
Heinie Wagner
Harry Hooper
A young Eddie Cicotte


Although, I can make an argument for the 1903 team led by Hall-of-Famers Cy Young & Jimmy Collins. They won the first ever World Series, even if they called themselves the Boston Americans back then.

1917 Team had Babe Ruth anchoring one of the best rotations in history and you have to talk about them too. (Of course, Harry Frazee would shortly sell Ruth to the Yanks in order to finance production of the highly successful show "No-No Nanette" )

1917 Red Sox rotation:

Ruth
Dutch Leonard
Carl Mays
Ernie Shore
Rube Foster


Which team do you think was best?

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Only you would speak about a team from 1912 as if you just watched them yesterday.

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Originally posted by Red Night
1917 Team had Babe Ruth anchoring one of the best rotations in history and you have to talk about them too. (Of course, Harry Frazee would shortly sell Ruth to the Yanks in order to finance production of the highly successful show "No-No Nanette" )
A myth. The musical No, No, Nanette opened on Broadway in 1925.. Frazee sold Ruth to the Yankees in 1919. He may have used the cash to finance a show, but it was some other show.

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
A myth. The musical No, No, Nanette opened on Broadway in 1925.. Frazee sold Ruth to the Yankees in 1919. He may have used the cash to finance a show, but it was some other show.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Frazee was obsessed with making it in the "Big Apple" and he certainly used some of his Ruth money to finance his entertainment ventures there.

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Originally posted by darvlay
Only you would speak about a team from 1912 as if you just watched them yesterday.
That was a great team. Beat the Giants in the World Series 4-3 with one tie. Smokey Joe Wood won THREE games and beat the immortal Matthewson in the Series clincher.

Fred Snodgrass' error and Speaker's clutch single won the game and the Title in what was dubbed the greatest series ever at the time.

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Originally posted by darvlay
Only you would speak about a team from 1912 as if you just watched them yesterday.
Quality!

Now if this was No.1... I'd be wondering if he did watch them, and did it in fact 'seem' like yesterday.

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We could talk about a team I actually saw...the 1975 Sox.

That's another good team. Lost to the Reds, who might have been the best National League team EVER.

Yaz, Pudge, Freddy Lynn, Jim Rice, Cecil cooper, Rico, Dewey, and the Rooster.

A little short of pitching after Tiant and the Spaceman, but still a very good team. Might have won if Rice had played and they had used the DH.

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Originally posted by Red Night
We could talk about a team I actually saw...the 1975 Sox.

That's another good team. Lost to the Reds, who might have been the best National League team EVER.

Yaz, Pudge, Freddy Lynn, Jim Rice, Cecil cooper, Rico, Dewey, and the Rooster.

A little short of pitching after Tiant and the Spaceman, but still a very good team. Might have won if Rice had played and they had used the DH.
Why were they not using the DH after 72?

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They used to use the Dh in the world series every other year. One year Nl rules, One year AL rules.

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Originally posted by jofaz
They used to use the Dh in the world series every other year. One year Nl rules, One year AL rules.
Ah!

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
Why were they not using the DH after 72?

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They did not use the DH in the World Series until 1976.

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Originally posted by Red Night
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
That bit of wisdom could be inscribed on Abner Doubleday's tombstone.

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
That bit of wisdom could be inscribed on Abner Doubleday's tombstone.
Did he claim to have invented baseball or did Spalding make the claim on his behalf?

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Originally posted by Red Night
Did he claim to have invented baseball or did Spalding make the claim on his behalf?
Apparently it was a "good story" cooked up by Spalding and the Mills Commision. Abner was long gone when he was anointed as the inventor.

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
Apparently it was a "good story" cooked up by Spalding and the Mills Commision. Abner was long gone when he was anointed as the inventor.
That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure.