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  1. SubscriberFMF
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    14 Jan '16 11:43
    Has the public expression of things like mourning, anger and victimhood become increasingly competitive?
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    14 Jan '16 12:42
    Originally posted by FMF
    Has the public expression of things like mourning, anger and victimhood become increasingly competitive?
    Yes.
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    14 Jan '16 13:04
    Originally posted by FMF
    Has the public expression of things like mourning, anger and victimhood become increasingly competitive?
    Most definitely.

    Look out for the upcoming Grief World Cup.
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    14 Jan '16 13:15
    Originally posted by FMF
    Has the public expression of things like mourning, anger and victimhood become increasingly competitive?
    That sounds like something Hitler might ask. 😛
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    14 Jan '16 23:14
    It's almost getting to be a celebrity thing. Die in a terrorist attack or a school shooting and you'll get tributes, memorials, and lots of public outpourings of grief. Die because your parent went nuts and drove the family car into the sea and the same thing happens but on a smaller scale. Die because your teenage child went nuts and shot you and none of that will happen. It all started with Diana ...
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    15 Jan '16 02:13
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    I know what you mean but I was more thinking along the lines of how some people in the public eye might nowadays sometimes consciously or unconsciously fear being seen as not grieving enough, not exhibiting enough outrage, not being seen as sufficiently angry and so on.

    Did any journalists and celebrities - talking to each other on camera or in front of microphones recently - perhaps fib when asked "Did you cry when you heard that David had died?" when they answered "Yes"? Did they really all cry? Or was there some perceived risk in them answering "Actually, no, I didn't"? Was a fib necessary to keep their 'grieving credentials' intact?
  7. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    drewnogal, I share your concerns and know that you will conquer them because you're a survivor with a focus on family and a keen sense of priority.
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    15 Jan '16 03:36
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    drewnogal, I share your concerns and know that you will conquer them because you're a survivor with a focus on family and a keen sense of priority.
    Aside from perhaps inadvertently illustrating the kind of thing I am talking about, do you have anything on-topic to offer this thread?
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    15 Jan '16 04:01
    Originally posted by FMF
    Aside from perhaps inadvertently illustrating the kind of thing I am talking about, do you have anything on-topic to offer this thread?
    Yes. The prevalence of political manipulation and victimhood which have impregnated the media news replacing "grief & outrage" as individual private issues to be resolved. The dialectic has moved 180 degrees resulting in the abnormal becoming normal due to the emblematic motif of a herd mentality. imo
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    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Yes. The prevalence of political manipulation and victimhood which have impregnated the media news replacing "grief & outrage" as individual private issues to be resolved. The dialectic has moved 180 degrees resulting in the abnormal becoming normal due to the emblematic motif of a herd mentality. imo
    Do you feel somehow in competition with others here over expressing sympathy in public for drewnogal and the rough patch she's going through?
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    My brother in law, a pipe smoking, real ale sipping chat-about-anything-with-anybody conversationalist, and a well read, thoughtful, shrewd barrister (QC), got asked to stay away from his village pub after he said - out loud, in front of two or three other customers (who did not respond or react), one slow and sleepy weekday evening, about a week after the sad event - that he was uncomfortable and baffled by the intensity of the outpouring of public grief in the wake of Diana Spencer's death.
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    15 Jan '16 18:27
    Originally posted by FMF
    Do you feel somehow in competition with others here over expressing sympathy in public for drewnogal and the rough patch she's going through?
    No; never have and ever will.
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    I know. The Lard's influence on this forum can be overwhelming
    sometimes. Hang in there. He promised to unsubscribe and eventually
    leave us in peace.

    Maybe this time it will be true. Oh wait...
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    15 Jan '16 22:42
    Originally posted by FMF
    My brother in law, a pipe smoking, real ale sipping chat-about-anything-with-anybody conversationalist, and a well read, thoughtful, shrewd barrister (QC), got asked to stay away from his village pub after he said - out loud, in front of two or three other customers (who did not respond or react), one slow and sleepy weekday evening, about a week after the sad e ...[text shortened]... baffled by the intensity of the outpouring of public grief in the wake of Diana Spencer's death.
    I'd like to buy your brother-in-law a pint!
  15. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    16 Jan '16 01:41
    Originally posted by Seitse
    I know. The Lard's influence on this forum can be overwhelming
    sometimes. Hang in there. He promised to unsubscribe and eventually
    leave us in peace.

    Maybe this time it will be true. Oh wait...
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