Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat effect on your stereotyping of the English do all the minibuses driven by English people, and which pass you without incident, have?
Oh dear, let me tell you of a personal experience. I was riding my bicycle on Great Western road in Glasgow, just past the Grovner hotel. As I stopped at the traffic lights on Kirklee avenue a minibus full of men pulled up beside me. As I waited for the lights to change they opened the windows of the minibus and started to spit on me terming me a ...[text shortened]... recognised from their accents that they were probably from the North East of England somewhere.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo you're not taking the discussion seriously, but suggesting that I am racist is something in this discussion that you did mean to be taken seriously, is that what you mean?
yes you were using the absurd and offensive practice of labelling people according to skin pigmentation. Do you think that skin pigmentation is an accurate description of them as an individual, no? then why did you do it? and more worrying , why do you find it acceptable?
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Originally posted by FMFYes but it will provide empirical evidence for the lack of mannerly deportment innate in ill bred English football hooligans and help us put their behaviour in context by comparing it to another nation, the Chinese. Infact as I pass by the Chinese in my mind, I can see them smiling and waving and instead of spitting on me, throwing flowers and burning incense!
But this doesn't answer the question about the mechanism you have for arriving at your prejudices and your stereotypical perspectives.
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Originally posted by FMFyou have not,
I have. Was suggesting that I am racist part of you not taking the discussion seriously?
Do you think that skin pigmentation is an accurate description of them as an individual, no? then why did you do it? and more worrying , why do you find it acceptable?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI responded to your facile banter about "yellow", "red" and "black" back on page 11, 3-4 times, and you just ignored it as ever.
you have not, do you think that terming someone according to the colour of their skin is a good description of them as an individual.
Black British people referring to themselves as black is simply British English, and it's British English for all British people regardless of their ethnicity or heritage.
You supposedly taking "offence" - and even supposedly lecturing countless black British people about how "offended" you are - doesn't change it one whit.
You personally disliking use of the word "black" does not somehow magically turn me into a "racist".
Originally posted by FMFDo you think that skin pigmentation is an accurate description of anyone as an individual?
I responded to your facile banter about "yellow", "red" and "black" back on page 11, 3-4 times, and you just ignored it as ever.
Black British people referring to themselves as black is simply British English, and it's British English for all British people regardless of their ethnicity or heritage.
You supposedly taking "offence" - and even supposedly l ...[text shortened]... personally disliking use of the word "black" does not somehow magically turn me into a "racist".
I am not asking you about convention. I am not asking you about who self identifies, what I am actually asking you is,
Do you think that skin pigmentation is an accurate description of anyone as an individual.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie"Black" is what black British people call themselves. The word pertains to their self-identity, their ancestry, their heritage, their ethnicity. It is you who is trying to squeeze laughs out of reducing it absurdly to an issue of "skin pigmentation". But then again, as you have admitted, you are not taking this discussion seriously. Even suggesting that I am racist is, in your estimation, suitable content for banter.
Do you think that skin pigmentation is an accurate description of anyone as an individual?
I am not asking you about convention. I am not asking you about who self identifies, what I am actually asking you is,
Do you think that skin pigmentation is an accurate description of anyone as an individual.
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Originally posted by FMFI am not asking you what they call themselves, I am asking you,
"Black" is what black British people call themselves. The word pertains to their self-identity, their ancestry, their heritage, their ethnicity. It is you who is trying to squeeze laughs out of reducing it absurdly to an issue of "skin pigmentation". But then again, as you have admitted, you are not taking this discussion seriously. Even suggesting that I am racist is, in your estimation, suitable content for banter.
Do you think that skin pigmentation is an accurate description of someone as an individual?
Deep down I think you realise how absurd it is. How it offends the sensibilities. To reduce someone to the pigmentation of their skin is utterly offensive to any human being with a functioning conscience. By adopting this social convention you perpetuate this demeaning practice.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNobody except you here is claiming that this is what the word "black" in "Black British" means. I'm certainly not. Your non-conventional preference regarding vocabulary cannot and does not succeed in making your charge that I am racist credible. This banter of yours is weak.
Do you think that skin pigmentation is an accurate description of someone as an individual?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf you think black British people, by calling themselves black, are reducing themselves "to the pigmentation of their skin", then I understand you. I get it. I don't think you're being serious. But I get what your banter is. You are saying you think that it's "utterly offensive". And you have lectured untold numbers of black people in Britain about how "utterly offensive" you find it. I get it.
To reduce someone to the pigmentation of their skin is utterly offensive to any human being with a functioning conscience.
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Originally posted by FMFI don't think so, if it was really that weak you would answer the question, but you cannot because you know how demeaning it is to reduce someone to something as absurd as the pigmentation of their skin.
Nobody except you here is claiming that this is what the word "black" in "Black British" means. I'm certainly not. Your non-conventional preference regarding vocabulary cannot and does not succeed in making your charge that I am racist credible. This banter of yours is weak.
I haven't lectured anyone, now you are just foaming. Drool alert!