Originally posted by no1marauderallegedly involved. Some say he went rogue and was solely responsible for all misdeeds the Pats are accused of.
Tough to when Goodall had all the film from previous seasons submitted by the Pats to the commissioner's office destroyed. At any rate, you admitted they cheated in prior years last page!
EDIT: Phlab: He [Mangini] ran and snitched on something he'd been [b]involved in with the Pats[/b]
Originally posted by no1marauderStill can't handle that the Pats are better than your team, eh? (whoever your team is, since the Pats are better than ANY other team this year).
What a couple of liars; obviously you're rooting for the right team.
Like I said, Belichik took his 10 yards, it's over. Only a true clown would persist in this ridiculous temper tantrum against the Patriots for being the truly great team that they are.
Originally posted by SmookiePNice try. Next time, take a couple of minutes to read the thread.
The Pats were busted for cheating, get over it!!
As I have stated numerous times: Belichik took his 10 yards. It's over, so get over it.
An unclear interpretation of a videotaping rule, which Belichik paid the fine on without appealing (!) doesn't make the Patriots cheaters. Most teams have (and continue to) taped. They all access footage from other teams. Just becuase your sorry teams can't win doesn't discredit the wins that the Pats have attained, and by the way, they are still undefeated since the alleged cheating incident.
Go ahead, explain that big mouth.
Originally posted by jofazThey were busted recording a video they NEVER SAW
The fact that the Patriots had to be punished means that they are cheaters. I am not sure what, other than erasing facts, can change this reality.
They crushed Jets without it.
They crushed everyone else without it.
You don't think these teams are smart enough to switch signs game to game, and even half to half? Give me a break.
NE Pats are the greatest team, as Don Shula... he was smart enough to realize he was WRONG about them.
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Originally posted by richjohnsonOnce NFL realized teams were pumping sound, they told them to stop. No one has been busted doing it after that to my knowledge.
I don't see what the big fuss is - if you're allowed to bring snowplows or amplify your crowd noise with the PA, why such an uproar about a camcorder?
If they were, they cheated... that doesn't make them cheats for life if they stop.
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Originally posted by Phlabibitactually it is untrue. If you were convicted of rape you are a rapist even if you stop. If you are convicted of murder you are a murder even if you only murdered once. The NFL destroyed the tapes and refused to indicate how long the Patriots had been doing this activity. Once you are convicted of cheating you are a cheater.
Once NFL realized teams were pumping sound, they told them to stop. No one has been busted doing it after that to my knowledge.
If they were, they cheated... that doesn't make them cheats for life if they stop.
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Originally posted by jofazI only feel that way about a rapist or murderer if they were not caught, or are on trial and the evidence seems overwhelming, or they are serving time.
actually it is untrue. If you were convicted of rape you are a rapist even if you stop. If you are convicted of murder you are a murder even if you only murdered once. The NFL destroyed the tapes and refused to indicate how long the Patriots had been doing this activity. Once you are convicted of cheating you are a cheater.
Once they've done their time / paid their debt they are not murderers or rapists.
Example:
"hear about the guy who moved in up the street? He was convicted of rape years ago and went to jail."
He was a rapist.
vs.
"Hear about the guy up the road? I believe he's a rapist! They came and took him away after a woman was raped and turned him it. Doesn't look good, he's going to jail".
He's probably a rapist.
vs.
"Dude! I saw that guy rape a woman! I hit him over the head with a log and called 911."
Also, you can see some of the tapes at youtube. Someone leaked them to Fox NFL. There is no way they were destroyed, although you probably can't find them in their entirety.
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Originally posted by jofazAlso, comparing video of a NFL team to Rape and Murder makes you an idiot. Just thought I'd let you know.
actually it is untrue. If you were convicted of rape you are a rapist even if you stop. If you are convicted of murder you are a murder even if you only murdered once. The NFL destroyed the tapes and refused to indicate how long the Patriots had been doing this activity. Once you are convicted of cheating you are a cheater.
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