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  1. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    This monument is to acknowledge that we know
    what is happening and what needs to be done.

    Only you know if we did it.


    Plaque commemorating the loss of the Ok Glacier.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/iceland-has-unveiled-a-memorial-to-the-first-glacier-lost-to-climate-change
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    @wolfgang59 said
    This monument is to acknowledge that we know
    what is happening and what needs to be done.

    Only you know if we did it.


    Plaque commemorating the loss of the Ok Glacier.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/iceland-has-unveiled-a-memorial-to-the-first-glacier-lost-to-climate-change
    Iceland sits on top of the Atlantic ridge and there is a constant flow of molten magma from the mantle to the surface. Iceland is the most actively volcanic area in the world with eruptions occurring on average every four years and although the land mass is relatively small a staggering 33% of all lava of the Earth’s lava flows flow through is volcanic systems. The volcanic eruptions can cause devastating lava flow damage with millions of tons of hot ash being ejected into the atmosphere; locals and visitors as advised to monitor volcanic activity as well as atmospheric conditions as eruptions in the highlands can deposit noxious gasses and dust across any part of the island.

    Do you think it possible that other factors other than just global CO2 levels may be in play here?
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    @divegeester said
    Do you think it possible that other factors other than just global CO2 levels may be in play here?
    I'm sure there are hundreds of scientists in Iceland awaiting your insight.
    Or maybe they have noticed the volcanoes too?
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    The planet gets hotter and colder.
    It's a cycle.
    We've had ice ages and periods of time have been extraordinarily hot.
    Up and down for billions of years.
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    @patzering said
    The planet gets hotter and colder.
    It's a cycle.
    We've had ice ages and periods of time have been extraordinarily hot.
    Up and down for billions of years.
    Fascinating ... where can I find out more?
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    18 Aug '19 07:281 edit
    @wolfgang59 said
    I'm sure there are hundreds of scientists in Iceland awaiting your insight.
    Or maybe they have noticed the volcanoes too?
    This thread was quite interesting “and so far without any silly off topic snarking. I think it is going quite well - don't you?”
  7. PFJ Judea AD33
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    @wolfgang59 said
    I'm sure there are hundreds of scientists in Iceland awaiting your insight.
    Or maybe they have noticed the volcanoes too?
    Do you think it possible that other factors other than just global CO2 levels may be in play here?
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    @wolfgang59 said
    Fascinating ... where can I find out more?
    Maybe the same place you can provide specific evidence of a correlation between the rate of the loss of ice on this glacier which sits atop a volcano, and the rate of global warming.

    What I’ve read indicates that this glacier has been losing ice since the first decades of the last century. Now we know that CO2 levels have been rising since the industrial revolution but is there evidence that the ice loss on this specific glacier, since the early 1900s, is caused solely by that. Bearing in mind it sits on top of an (albeit relatively dormant) volcano in the most volcanic lava spewing region of the world.

    I’m not saying the evidence doesn’t exist; I’m just asking you to get some from some of the “hundreds of scientists” on Iceland who are apparently awaiting my insights.
  9. PFJ Judea AD33
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    Can I say in thread parenthesis that I totally accept that climate change is occurring due to increased CO2 levels. I also accept that it is probably species threatening due to the negative cascade of biological and agricultural impacts. I am in no way a ‘climate change denier’.

    I prefer the truth and this volcanic glacier story with plaques and memorials and lamenting and ceremonies and pilgrimages smells of hand-wringing media- fuelled politicised storifying.
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    @divegeester said
    Can I say in thread parenthesis that I totally accept that climate change is occurring due to increased CO2 levels. I also accept that it is probably species threatening due to the negative cascade of biological and agricultural impacts. I am in no way a ‘climate change denier’.

    I prefer the truth and this volcanic glacier story with plaques and memorials and lamenting and ceremonies and pilgrimages smells of hand-wringing media- fuelled politicised storifying.
    Sounds like attempted science-denial to me.
    High hopes for this thread were disappointed soon after second post.

    Nice derailing.
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    @wolfe63 said
    Sounds like attempted science-denial to me.
    High hopes for this thread were disappointed soon after second post.

    Nice derailing.
    Speaking of derailing. Does anyone know where I can find, an inexpensive, Derailleur for my 1976 Peugeot bike?
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    @great-big-stees said
    Speaking of derailing. Does anyone know where I can find, an inexpensive, Derailleur for my 1976 Peugeot bike?
    the volcanoes in iceland have melted all the derailleurs


    buy greenland
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    @rookie54 said
    the volcanoes in iceland have melted all the derailleurs


    buy greenland
    Well I am trying to do my bit to help Green the land by getting my bike back in working, in more than 1 of it's 10 gears.
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    @great-big-stees said
    Well I am trying to do my bit to help Green the land by getting my bike back in working, in more than 1 of it's 10 gears.
    My old neighbor was bike-crazy. He bought and sold them just for fun. I recall that his primary source for rare parts and accessories was Craig's List. Good luck my man. That bike is a classic!

    Here's a quickly googled link that might help:

    https://www.steel-vintage.com/parts/derailleurs-shifters/
  15. PFJ Judea AD33
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    @wolfe63 said
    Sounds like attempted science-denial to me.
    High hopes for this thread were disappointed soon after second post.

    Nice derailing.
    “Derailing” how? My post was laser focused on topic.

    I guess it’s a rude awaking ~ realising that there are people in the world with different perspectives to you.
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