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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Dictionaries excel at denotation but connotation is often beyond them.
Of course. But where did you get the connection "knave" - "Knecht" from? I doubt it has the same root ("Knecht" and "knight" do, though). And if you can show that "Knecht" had a connotation of "knave", you'd still have to show that "Schalk" had the same connotation.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
Of course. But where did you get the connection "knave" - "Knecht" from? I doubt it has the same root ("Knecht" and "knight" do, though). And if you can show that "Knecht" had a connotation of "knave", you'd still have to show that "Schalk" had the same connotation.
Certainly in the card playing world Knave, Knight, Jack, Chevallier, Page etc. have all been used synonymously over the ages, but I'm not sure how that applies outside of English.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
But where did you get the connection "knave" - "Knecht" from?
A knave was a low-born person. A villein. You could expect a low-born person (knave) to behave ignobly (knavishly).

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
A knave was a low-born person. A villein. You could expect a low-born person (knave) to behave ignobly (knavishly).
Yes, but where's the "Knecht" connection?

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Originally posted by Nordlys
Yes, but where's the "Knecht" connection?
A knecht is a low-born person but can also be a rogue, as in Knecht Ruprecht--no? The connection is the connotation of the words, not any shared roots or what have you (I don't know the etymology of knave).

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I got confirmation for loading my turn, and the GM said, "Wow... you kick ass!"

King P!

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
I got confirmation for loading my turn, and the GM said, "Wow... you kick ass!"

King P!
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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
A knecht is a low-born person but can also be a rogue, as in Knecht Ruprecht--no?
While I am sure most Knechte were low-born, "Knecht" doesn't mean "low-born person". It's rather a job title. It might have a connotation of "rogue" in some cases.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
I got confirmation for loading my turn, and the GM said, "Wow... you kick ass!"

King P!
What the heck are you talking about??


Oh, right, this is the Medieval Diplomacy Thread.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
It might have a connotation of "rogue" in some cases.
That's what I had in mind.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
What the heck are you talking about??


Oh, right, this is the Medieval Diplomacy Thread.
You trying to whale on me?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
That's what I had in mind.
Okay. It's a logical connotation, as members of the lower classes were usually looked down upon. I still doubt it had that connotation in the name, though. In connection with god, it was seen as positive to be just a servant.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
You trying to whale on me?

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I am trying to hijack the thread.

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Originally posted by catfoodtim
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Hello down there little mad person. How's the country?

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