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    Ya mean kilts?
    Little chance there because of the Scots' reputation (mostly undeserved) for being....I'll say frugal.
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    Is it that thrill of obtaining unearned money that drives the gambling urge, I wonder?
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    Thats stealing. Sounds like the only person of good moral fiber in your home is son A.
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    He really should do that work himself - he probably won't be able to pay his partner to do these things. But I have been in the same situation as you and solved it much the same way.
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    So your son is guilty of being a typical teenager.

    As for you feeling guilt and having what you think are justifiable circumstances to do somthing crooked, thats the very same logic used by terrorists to kill, and by others to respond and retaliate. Same logic used by employees to steal from employers and by citizens to steal from governments.

    Everything is justifiable. I hope son A grows up to be a bit different and not follow your example.
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    19 Oct '13 22:18
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    So your son is guilty of being a typical teenager.

    As for you feeling guilt and having what you think are justifiable circumstances to do somthing crooked, thats the very same logic used by terrorists to kill, and by others to respond and retaliate. Same logic used by employees to steal from employers and by citizens to steal from governments.

    Everything is justifiable. I hope son A grows up to be a bit different and not follow your example.
    Her son is actually 32.
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    19 Oct '13 23:13
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    So your son is guilty of being a typical teenager.

    As for you feeling guilt and having what you think are justifiable circumstances to do somthing crooked, thats the very same logic used by terrorists to kill, and by others to respond and retaliate. Same logic used by employees to steal from employers and by citizens to steal from governments.

    Everything is justifiable. I hope son A grows up to be a bit different and not follow your example.
    That's pathetic. You're criticizing without walking the suggested mile in her shoes. Haven't you learned yet to keep such thoughts to yourself? I realize most people think their opinion is the gold standard, but here you're way, way off base, and good for her for not being swayed by your obviously lacking opinion. From what I've read about Drew, she's a good mom, while I can only conclude from what you've written that you are not.
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    Originally posted by Suzianne
    That's pathetic. You're criticizing without walking the suggested mile in her shoes. Haven't you learned yet to keep such thoughts to yourself? I realize most people think their opinion is the gold standard, but here you're way, way off base, and good for her for not being swayed by your obviously lacking opinion. From what I've read about Drew, she's a good mom, while I can only conclude from what you've written that you are not.
    People who place their personal business out on the internet for all to see can get criticized. She identified a clear case of stealing from her son. I do not know anything else about her so I did not comment on her. I commented on the act of stealing which she attempted to justify.
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    20 Oct '13 00:48
    Originally posted by Trev33
    Her son is actually 32.
    Is that a justifiable reason to steal?
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    Originally posted by Rajk999
    So your son is guilty of being a typical teenager.

    As for you feeling guilt and having what you think are justifiable circumstances to do somthing crooked, thats the very same logic used by terrorists to kill, and by others to respond and retaliate. Same logic used by employees to steal from employers and by citizens to steal from governments.

    Everything is justifiable. I hope son A grows up to be a bit different and not follow your example.
    So what would you advise someone to do under the circumstances, flog the teenager or behead him? You sound a lot like a terrorist who gets himself all worked up with righteous indignation before going out to blow people up. Acts of physical violence usually start with this kind of hateful rhetoric.
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    Glad to hear that. I hope you got the point I was making.
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    20 Oct '13 01:50
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    People who place their personal business out on the internet for all to see can get criticized. She identified a clear case of stealing from her son. I do not know anything else about her so I did not comment on her. I commented on the act of stealing which she attempted to justify.
    Stealing? No. Instruction? Yes.

    My opinion is that a lot of the problems facing America today with our youth stem from parents trying to be their child's "best friend" rather than their parent. You sound like you had a difficult time in your own childhood because you were insulted at your parents' attempts at instruction. I have no kids of my own, and yet even I see what was behind what she did, and so did the child unless he was a stuck-up arrogant brat, which he's probably not, given a mom like Drew.

    Even if your first sentence was correct, why must one 'criticize'? Why presume to tell her how to raise her own son? The critics of the world love to tell everyone exactly how they should live their lives, yet amazingly, they often have their own bigger problems. Surely you can see the parallel with Matthew 7:1-6.
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    There are skirts with pockets in?
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