It seems to me that what is happening at RHP, while nessecary, is somewhat like what the British government is trying to do over terroism.
Basically acting in a draconian way, locking people up without trial or enacting summary executions without any visible due process.
The first we know of someones termination is when one happens to read the forums or look at THAT page. I guess it parallels to when the first we knew someone had been carted off to the concentration camps is when the milk and newspapers started piling up on their doorsteps.
While those loyal to the cause and trusting the government celebrate gleefully the supposed delivery of justice it leaves an unsavory taste in my mouth of dictorial societies since history started documenting them.
I have never trusted government, they are just people with power and thus as much as i disagree with internment without trial I disagree with execution without publically visible due process (actually I disagree with execution too, just a wishy washy liberal i guess).
So I stand for civil rights and the rule of law and visible due process, these are our only protection against tyranny and corruption and the loss of freedom.
But how can these noble princibles be applied to the small mini world that is RHP?
Well i think all those banned should have the oppertunity to defend themselfs or confess and apologise and be forgiven (and monitored).
A special forum JUST for moderation decisions and feedback is required, then all the gloating and ranting can go there.
Those accused should be anounced by the moderator in this forum, the games listed and the charges laid. They should then have time to defend themselves with character references etc. Finally judgement and sentance should be deliveried!!!
Admit it would be one hell of a side show!!
😀😀
Originally posted by Moldy CrowI thought he was playing devils advocate and taking the mickey. Was I so wrong?
"Horrified"? You act as if someone's really been hurt here . How much of a break from reality have you had ? Do you think exy's being held in a cell away from his family ? Do you think IM31's home was foreclosed on ? Do you think the next cheat's going to have the mark of Cane carved into the flesh on his forehead ?
You're an idiot . You defend t ...[text shortened]... credibility .
Go pitch your fits someplace else . I for one am sick of your childish tantrums .
Originally posted by DeepfaultYou must be kidding!
It seems to me that what is happening at RHP, while nessecary, is somewhat like what the British government is trying to do over terroism.
Basically acting in a draconian way, locking people up without trial or enacting summary executions without any visible due process.
It's more like kicking out and banning hooligans from their local football ground. Are you saying that shouldn't happen?
And the British government do not lock people up without trial; they lock them up pending trial, or in some terrorist suspected cases whilst police investigations are concluded. Maybe you'd prefer all terrorist suspects to be out on bail...haha. Tell that to the relatives of the bomb victims.
Originally posted by Moldy CrowMy god,14 recs for the old Crow!
"Horrified"? You act as if someone's really been hurt here . How much of a break from reality have you had ? Do you think exy's being held in a cell away from his family ? Do you think IM31's home was foreclosed on ? Do you think the next cheat's going to have the mark of Cane carved into the flesh on his forehead ?
You're an idiot . You defend t ...[text shortened]... credibility .
Go pitch your fits someplace else . I for one am sick of your childish tantrums .
Shav,your senseless rantings against game moderation or any form of authority bored everyone,deal with it.
I have stopped myself posting several times now in the hopes that this thread would just die by itself.
Can we all just calm down a little? Cheating is not good or fair, so those who cheat should not be allowed to play. It's really that simple.
But again, before we go tripping on our newfound zeal for the destruction of those that have so grievously wronged us, lets remember this is an internet chess website. Unless this is your profession and therefore your means of survival, your rating is really not that important. Your d1ck will not grow or shrink based on your points, and when/if you stand up from your computer I can personally assure you you will not be stricken dead by the chess god for losing a match. Nor will you suddenly be granted amazing powers for exposing cheaters and furthering the cause of good.
So can we all just chill for a little bit? Put the egos aside and stop making such a big deal out of something thats already being dealt with by the administrators? I personally like reading about shav's drunken expediaions, and then having xanthos, zakk, and mokko make fun of him for it, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that.😀
All this b1tching is taking away from the enjoyability of the forums, and its really unnecessary anyway. So lets all kick back, relax, open a beer, and try to postpone our real lives for a little longer.
Originally posted by blitzkrieg33:'(:'(:'(:'(
I have stopped myself posting several times now in the hopes that this thread would just die by itself.
Can we all just calm down a little? Cheating is not good or fair, so those who cheat should not be allowed to play. It's really that simple.
But again, before we go tripping on our newfound zeal for the destruction of those that have so grievou ...[text shortened]... lets all kick back, relax, open a beer, and try to postpone our real lives for a little longer.
Originally posted by Moldy CrowWell said Moldy
"Horrified"? You act as if someone's really been hurt here . How much of a break from reality have you had ? Do you think exy's being held in a cell away from his family ? Do you think IM31's home was foreclosed on ? Do you think the next cheat's going to have the mark of Cane carved into the flesh on his forehead ?
You're an idiot . You defend t ...[text shortened]... credibility .
Go pitch your fits someplace else . I for one am sick of your childish tantrums .
Boot the cheats
and ban the people who defend the cheats, from the forums, as these people are anarchist's and are against fair play and the rules at rhp.
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveYou have fallen into the classic logic trap. assuming the crime and therefore arguing the penalty, as if the crime were assumed.
You must be kidding!
It's more like kicking out and banning hooligans from their local football ground. Are you saying that shouldn't happen?
And the British government do not lock people up without trial; they lock them up pending trial, or in some terrorist suspected cases whilst police investigations are concluded. Maybe you'd prefer all terrorist suspects to be out on bail...haha. Tell that to the relatives of the bomb victims.
This is based on some form of trust in those proposing the crime a trust there is no evidence they deserve but you would rather give them then worry about the alternatives.
I am not saying for one second that if they have done the crime they should not do the time, of course not.
I am merely saying the rule of Law should be upheld and more importantly be seen to be upheld and not modified to sort the expedience of the circumstance. You should study the fall of republicanism and democracy into dictatorship more, from the the end of the roman repubic to the rise of the mid twentieth century facist states there has ALWAYS been justification to modify the rule of law to cope with circumstance and to hide the face of justice from the people.
Is your naivity due to your youth or do you read the Sun newspaper a lot?
The British Government propose locking people up for 90 days without trial now(thankfully defeated), they have had held foriegn nationals for years without trial in regard to house arrest and they have in the recent past used internment in Northern Ireland.
There are ways of achieving what they want to achieve without acting like other destroyers of democracy and freedom and thus setting a dangerous precedent that can not be allowed.
They should value the fragile freedom rather then the quick and dirty solution.
Dont give me the rubbish about the bomb victims, it is emotive brainless posturing of the worse kind. I sympathise personally with the victims, I was very nearly one myself and still I think Knee jerk destructions of what we hold to be dear is the depths or moronic thinking and history repeating itself with dire end consequences.
Do not imagine for second that democracies are eternal, the romans imagined that before the comming of the Ceasars!!
Originally posted by VivaldiAnd ban the people who suggest visible justice.
Well said Moldy
Boot the cheats
and ban the people who defend the cheats, from the forums, as these people are anarchist's and are against fair play and the rules at rhp.
And ban the people who dont like the way some part of the site works.
And ban the people who complain about any down time.
And ban the people who whinge about subscription charges
And ban the people who have strong opinions that cause conflict.
Last one out turn the light off... or is that to be banned as well?
Originally posted by blitzkrieg33Discussion and conflict is part of the fun of the forums.
I have stopped myself posting several times now in the hopes that this thread would just die by itself.
Can we all just calm down a little? Cheating is not good or fair, so those who cheat should not be allowed to play. It's really that simple.
But again, before we go tripping on our newfound zeal for the destruction of those that have so grievou ...[text shortened]... lets all kick back, relax, open a beer, and try to postpone our real lives for a little longer.
I for one feel only amusement and enjoyment when I post here, generally no matter how strongly worded my posts.
I think perhaps you are empathising too strongly with imagined strong emotions that may not exist.
Perhaps we should all put, strength of feeling indicators on our postings.
But even if you are right and people are feeling unessecarily over passionate about the issue it is passion that makes us know we are alive and dispersing it in the forum is probably better then venting on our nearest and dearest.
I often wonder what the house of No1Marauder is now like to live in now that the RHP route to vent his spleen has gone from his angry life forever.
;-)