Originally posted by Moldy CrowJust because you morons are in the majority on this issue does not mean that I am wrong.
1- None is required of site-admin .
2- You're "moral finger wagging" from your side of the issue . Your's is ok , but our's is not ?
3- Site names , but does not shame . If cheater wish not to be named , they could stop cheating . Or they could leave . I think the gloating is a human emotion that comes with winning a game , flaming someone who ...[text shortened]... rson . Quite selfish and not at all a nice person when you don't get your way . Grow up Shavi .
You know deep down that naming and shaming is evil. You know what it does to societies and you'd be very naieve to think that it won't or can't have repurcussions here.
Originally posted by DeepfaultRuss is interested in what his paying customers say and want . And like any good business man he weighs the public opinion with major decisions .
While I see the truth in your logic it rather stifles the debate.
True it may be unfair that no one can sit in the comfy chair apart from No1 but it is really quite diverting at his 'hypothetical' parties that we can discuss this injustice.
What you seem to be saying is do as the boss tell you and dont argue.
Well what is the point of having a d ...[text shortened]... e community or the supreme, capable and righteous management. To paraphrase please dont boot me.
I've never advocated the supression of debate . Please read my posts carefully . I believe I can say that I have NEVER advocated the supression of constructive debate .
I am not suggesting any changes to the current system . I don't have a problem with it . Would I do it differently ? Maybe . But what we have here is sufficient imo .And quite frankly I don't care to take the problem on in depth . It seems like it would be like playing armchair quarterback .
As far as me posting things to curry favor with Russ or anyone else ? You don't know me very well . (Oh , and btw - you can stick that up you arse so far you can brush the backs of your teeth with it.)
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Originally posted by Deepfaultlol, sometimes but only when someone has crossed me otherwise I am always fair and equitable. To be honest I found out about him this morning and ever since I have had moments of hatred for him then later thought 'hang on, he's the loser here, why get wound up by some sad person who cheats to build up false esteem. I had come back to edit the previous post out, but you were too quick to spot it and respond. I haven't read this whole thread yet as I have just got in from work, but I dare say there has been chat for and against 'revenge'. At the end of the day we have to rise above it (ps £250 to break his legs ...................only joking I wouldn't pay a penny over £100).
Do you conduct your real life with as much vengeful Zeal as your chess life?
If so i must make a mental note not to cross you.
That aside how much money?
Originally posted by Moldy CrowWell said, you saved me having to answer that stupid post.
The logic trap that many have fallen into in this debate is the comparison to governments (democratic in nature). But this is a private site . It isn't as much like government ; insuring rights and liberties , protection citizens from outside aggressors , building and maintaining infrastructer . It's more like a very large party . Russ is our host , thi ...[text shortened]... o , to paraphrase Eric Cartman from South Park - "Screw you guys , I'm going to play chess ".
I'd give you a rec but I can't.
Originally posted by no1marauderI don't know what its like where you come from, but the law in the UK actually says that for example, a landlord of a pub can ask someone to leave and specifically has no requirement to give a reason. The same applies to restaurants, hotels etc etc. So I think the same should apply here. Why anyone is against it is a wonder. Unless someone has been thrown out there's no reason for them to be against it. Anyone who has been kicked out and hasn't been told why may have reason to moan, but how do we know they haven't been told, or at least know why it happened.
If someone gets thrown out of a party, the host will them why as in what specifically they did to warrant being tossed. The person will generally have a chance to discuss the matter with the host.
I'm not sure a PM from a booted player is very reliable either.
Originally posted by Moldy CrowThank you i have always wanted a shortcut way to rear of mouth oral freshness!!
Russ is interested in what his paying customers say and want . And like any good business man he weighs the public opinion with major decisions .
I've never advocated the supression of debate . Please read my posts carefully . I believe I can say that I have NEVER advocated the supression of constructive debate .
I am not suggesting any changes to ...[text shortened]... and btw - you can stick that up you arse so far you can brush the backs of your teeth with it.)
That aside though. Let me get this right.
1. You dont intend to be a armchair quarterback and call the plays on how the justice system on this site should be or could be configured.
But
2. You do want to spend endless posts telling everyone not to do it either.
1. You dont want to supress debate on what are the possible options in respect to dealing with the foul and evil cheaters.
But
2. You want to repeatedly state that its up to the managment as this is a private site, party, alternative reality or whatever and we have right no reason to debate it.
Lets assume that you have made your point quite and repeatedly clear that you feel the whole thing is really Russ's call and lets assume I also agree with you.
So now you can either go home or apply your formidable interlect to discuss how it could be done (assuming of course that we have no right whatsover to suggest enything).
How would you change the current system? What are your ideas?
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveSir the law is an Ass.
I don't know what its like where you come from, but the law in the UK actually says that for example, a landlord of a pub can ask someone to leave and specifically has no requirement to give a reason. The same applies to restaurants, hotels etc etc. So I think the same should apply here. Why anyone is against it is a wonder. Unless someone has been t ...[text shortened]... at least know why it happened.
I'm not sure a PM from a booted player is very reliable either.
Also I am dissapointed that you let someone else take your fights for you.
See my post to the Mouldy Birdy basically you are saying that we have no right to debate these points because the pub, hotel or site owner is god?
Why are you even here?
Lest assume that we agree that we have no 'right' to tell D'management what to do... like yeah of course dude!!
But we can still debate it !! Repeatedly saying we have no right to make our points contributes less then zero to the debate.
Argue why the system is good or bad, suggest changes, dont just say it is how it is and we have no right to suggest otherwise over and over and over again.
What do YOU think is right about the system or wrong?
Originally posted by Moldy CrowLet me try a different angle then, to point out what I mean:
Replace "naming and shaming" in your post with "cheating".
When the majority decides that theft is bad, or terrorism, or communism, or being black, or that being disabled is bad, don't you think it's rather comforting to know that the likes of me will be there screaming and bawling for these perpetrators to be treated with dignity and respect?
What you and your ilk are doing in this thread, when drawn into the wider scope of things, is disbanding decency to have a cheap laugh, without considering what you're actually doing.
What will happen if a majority thinks that you are bad? What will happen when they parade your name on a list for all to see? Do you think I should keep my mouth shut then? Nor would I be happy if my name was on any such a list and nobody screamed for me!
And when I'm in a creative mood I will write lightly, in jest and sensibly. And when I'm in a foul mood I will write in hatred and pure venom, so am I. Like it or lump it. But I have my morals and I will argue my case.
Originally posted by shavixmirDont ever change shavixmir... in life or in RHP..
.....will be there screaming and bawling for these perpetrators to be treated with dignity and respect?
You are following in the noblest and bravest of footsteps of the best of men.
I will scream out for you if they come to take you away!!
😀😀😉
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Originally posted by DeepfaultI am advocating that the system as it stands is just fine . What do you not understand about this ? I did not think management was doing enough to prosicute cheaters in the past . At that time , I stated that I understood it was their right not to , and that I would simply have to deal with that under the flag of accepting the good with the bad . Site admin decided to pole the membership about the issue . I think I also noted this was kind of them to do so as they were under no obligation to do so . They decided to change course , and begin to more aggressively persue cheating . I agree with this , and am restating the point that whether I or anyone else agrees with their decisions , it is their right to do so . What I am castigating is an attitude that seems much like that of a militant pan-handler's - "you gave me a buck last week , therefore you bloody well owe me one today" .
Sir the law is an Ass.
Also I am dissapointed that you let someone else take your fights for you.
See my post to the Mouldy Birdy basically you are saying that we have no right to debate these points because the pub, hotel or site owner is god?
Why are you even here?
Lest assume that we agree that we have no 'right' to tell D'management what ...[text shortened]... otherwise over and over and over again.
What do YOU think is right about the system or wrong?
Our ability to argue about this on a private site is priviledge Russ allows us , not a constitutional right . I take umbrage with those who mistakenly think otherwise , and act accordingly .
As far as No1 Marauder carrying my lunch pail , you could not possibly be farther away from the truth . You are not only barking up the wrong tree , but in the wrong woods . It is very rare that he and I agree on anything . He hates me . Neither he nor I back one another out of any loyalty or sentiment . That we happen to largely agree here is based solely on our own decisions based on the merits of the arguements presented.
Originally posted by Moldy CrowHmmm. If you and no1 largely agree here, I must have misunderstood one of you completely. And I thought you had both been pretty clear about what you meant.
As far as No1 Marauder carrying my lunch pail , you could not possibly be farther away from the truth . You are not only barking up the wrong tree , but in the wrong woods . It is very rare that he and I agree on anything . He hates me . Neither he nor I back one another out of any loyalty or sentiment . That we happen to largely agree here is based solely on our own decisions based on the merits of the arguements presented.
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Originally posted by NordlysI share your confusion. There's hardly anything in MC's last post I agree with except that Russ has the absolute power to do what he wants with his site. He could make us all open with a4 if he choose to. But ignoring the wishes and concerns of the people who make up RHP wouldn't be good bizness.
Hmmm. If you and no1 largely agree here, I must have misunderstood one of you completely. And I thought you had both been pretty clear about what you meant.