For Russ's sake, I'm glad this is done with. As for Zach, you're still OK in my book kid. I can't blame people for their mistakes, I just expect them to live up to them. Zach has done that. Zach has done a lot FOR the community here, and I firmly believe that if he stays he will continue to be a positive presence here at RHP. Good intentions sometimes manifest in bad ideas, such is life. Zach or not, 14 or 41, I think he has done a lot of good here and hope he stays. I count Zach among my friends here at RHP, and if he is an imperfect person then I count him even more so, for then he is my equal.
Wait a minute people,aren't you taking all of this to serious?What zach has done was bad,stupid,silly,you name it.And,yes,he has done damage.Judging by this thread even a lot of damage!Let's look objectively at what he's done.He lied about who he was,he had 'alter ego's'.Ok,I have no idea why someone would do that,but,ok,he did.He tricked us into trusting someone that didn't exist and by doing so he found out certain things about certain people that those people would have never shared with him.Not very nice,I agree.I know it hurts and those people have every right to be angry.But guys,come on,this is the internet.What else can you expect?To trust someone in real life is a risk.To trust someone over the internet is a double risk.Surely you all realised that before you started trusting him/her/it/whatever.I trusted him too,and Miss Hope.What did it cost me in the end?What did it really cost me?15$!The price of Miss Hope's star.That's all,no more no less.Does that make me mad?Hell no!I've spend a lot more money in much worse ways.Do I feel betrayed?Yes,of course I do.Doesn't bother me much.I've been betrayed many,many times in real life.Sometimes intentional,sometimes by friends who wanted to help.It happens.Get over it!The only thing that has changed is that I now know not to trust Zach.That's the consequence of his actions.But does that mean I won't talk to or play him anymore?Nooooo!Why wouldn't I?If people would cast me out for every stupid action I ever made,I would be very lonely.Maybe in time I will trust him again.Not likely,but possible.
No ban,no punishment.Let's put this behind us and get on with things.Ok?
Russ,you can keep the money.I know it is in good hands.๐
Just don't spend it all at once!๐
Originally posted by SkipSlotYes, this could be done. I have resisted implementing it though because people who genuinely do share a computer have to defend themselves from the outset.
One suggestion would be to label each multiple user IDs to that computer and place it in the profile and "yes" it can be done. I don't know how its done, but I would gladly give Russ or Chris links to other chess sites that employ it. At least we would have known that Zach, Melon and earthboy were from the same computer.
Regards,
-Bob
But after this experience, I may consider it again. Having said that, I very much doubt we will ever get a case like this again.
-Russ
Originally posted by RussCount me in favor of the idea. I doubt they'll be more cases like Zach, or at least not on that scale, but seeing the negative effects on this in the RHP community, I think that it would restore some confidence in the sincerety of most people here in those that were most affected by Zach's escapades.
Yes, this could be done. I have resisted implementing it though because people who genuinely do share a computer have to defend themselves from the outset.
But after this experience, I may consider it again. Having said that, I very much doubt we will ever get a case like this again.
-Russ
And unlikely as it may be, I would really hate to see anything similar happen again.
-Jarno
I don't think what he has done is trivial or something to be laughed off. In the real world, yes, of course, it's nothing compared to the 'real bad' things that happen out there, and I wouldn't give it much thought.
But in the context of this community he has done some bad things and I would be offended to see him posting in the forums or have to play him in a clan game.I would like to see all his accounts deleted.I do not believe that this person should contribute in any way to this site.
Speaking of clan games, he actually put his Zach account up against his Miss Hope account to win a clan game for the Fun Clan.
PS Zach, you can take me off your buddy list.
Originally posted by Black LungI think you're being unfair. Zach has done alot for this site even without being a mod. He haas been great friends to people and he has my full support. He has also been 1 of my closest friends here.
I don't think what he has done is trivial or something to be laughed off. In the real world, yes, of course, it's nothing compared to the 'real bad' things that happen out there, and I wouldn't give it much thought.
But in the context of this community he has done some bad things and I would be offended to see him posting in the forums or have to ...[text shortened]... pe account to win a clan game for the Fun Clan.
PS Zach, you can take me off your buddy list.
Originally posted by CFCNow theres a thought. Lets make zach, melon, hope & earthyboy moderators๐๐
I think you're being unfair. Zach has done alot for this site even without being a mod. He haas been great friends to people and he has my full support. He has also been 1 of my closest friends here.
quite frankly, I don't think the community will miss him/her/it. However, a life ban does seem harsh, but I do feel that "zach" should have his pawnstar(s) status revoked, due to the irrepairable damage done - how many people are going to step forward and sponsor people who REALLY need it. Those wasted sponsorships of Miss Hope etc could have gone to someone who deserved it.
SirLoseaLot: you are a much bigger man than most to be able to forgive so easily. although $15 is not a great deal of money to some, the betrayal of your generousity is disgraceful and unforgivable in my book
Mark
Originally posted by royalchickenAnd unfortunately i brought up the "sponsor a star orphan thread" ๐
I apologize for spearheading the campaign to get Miss Hope a star ๐ณ.
I hope nobody else has been taken in by this "con artist" In the real world he`d be in jail by now don`t forget.
Originally posted by CFCJust being a friend doesn't do too much for the site.
I think you're being unfair. Zach has done alot for this site even without being a mod. He haas been great friends to people and he has my full support. He has also been 1 of my closest friends here.
He's a user, just like the rest of us.
Now he has misused the site...
Some penalty is in order.