Originally posted by PalynkaNo, I absolutely agree with what you're saying, Palynka, but I still think its admittedly inferior rendering of the storyline is far better than The Matrix, which was nowhere near as interesting as it thought it was.
But that's my point, the potential of the story is there, but Verhoeven failed to deliver it. The main character's change of ethics through change of memories is such a promising topic yet I think Verhoeven skipped it altogether. It happens, but that's it... I think he missed it in that film.
Funny you should mention TMITHC as it's my most anticipated ...[text shortened]... ds, something that may have delayed its adaptation... Any thoughts on that?
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I think you may be right about The Man in the High Castle, although I wonder if the biggest problem is that they may feel that Fatherland has pipped them to it (nonsense, obviously, since Fatherland is a phlegmatic but realistic bit of alternate history whereas High Castle is ultimately something much more significant, bordering on an existential novel or projection of victory by a defeated nation). The ambiguity of the denouement may give them problems, too, although I daresay they'd re-write it in a cinch.
Originally posted by AmauroteI still think the first Matrix's script was more interesting than Total Recall's (not to be confused with the PKD's short story). They are both not much more than action films and, as an action film, the Matrix is very well done. The tempo is perfect, the action scenes are memorable, the depthness is not extremely deep but it is neither too shallow, and Agent Smith is a delight (which then proceeded to become a caricature of himself in the sequels) especially his speech about human nature.
No, I absolutely agree with what you're saying, Palynka, but I still think its admittedly inferior rendering of the storyline is far better than The Matrix, which was nowhere near as interesting as it thought it was.
I think you may be ...[text shortened]... blems, too, although I daresay they'd re-write it in a cinch.
It's a film that I'm usually mildly attacking when around it's defenders and strongly defending it around it's detractors. I think most opinions are polarized in a love-hate type of opinion.
One thing is certain, it redefined the standard for action films and it will probably be a staple mark in the genre even when people look back twenty years from now.
Edit: The sequels are almost undefendable and I haven't seen many people trying to...😵
I was just thinking about this topic this weekend, and was going to create a post about it this morning.
The thing that prompted this is that I saw the worst film I have ever seen this weekend.
Before I mention that, I'll go through my previous worst films.
3. Queen of the Damned. I was dragged to see this by an Anne Rice fan. I'd seen Interview with the Vampire and thought it was quite fun and quite well done. QotD id the opposite - horrible cheesy acting, horrible story. Ugh. Would only appeal to teenage wannabe goth vampire types. I sat and squirmed in my seat at this. Eventually this was knocked off the top spot by...
2. Moulin Rouge. I know this was lauded by all and sundry, but... I don't like musicals. I don't like camp vaudeville, music hall type stuff. But my mother insisted I would like this. Despite the "I don't like musicals", etc., she said "but this film is different, I think you'll like it..". Needless to say I hated every minute of it. As I said at the time "It was only the presence of Nicole Kidman that prevented my from pulling my eyes out and stuffing them in my ears".
Anyway, this weekend, totally out of the blue (as the comments from friends didn't give me sufficient warning), this was usurped by...
1. King Arthur.
WHY DID NOBODY WARN ME????? I rented this because there were three of us and this was one of the few films that nobody had seen. All three of us wanted to turn it off after 15 minutes, but we stuck it out as some kind of endurance test. The acting. Okay, there wasn't any. Ray Winstone - why do I keep seeing films with him in. Of course if you like luv a duck (or is that lav a dack?) cockey wide boy knights, kings, and texans, you might like him. Clive Owen looked like he was carved from a lump of mahogany (don't get me wrong - I'm not a snob when it comes to acting, but when it makes me want to curl up into a ball and hit myself in the head it's a problem). The dialogue...I'm not a book burner, but all copies of this script should be sealed in lead and sent into space. Maybe that's not good enough, some alien race might find it someday. Anyway, it was laughable, cringy, horrible. The story was pointless, stupid, etc. Right I'm not wasting anymore time on this steaming pile of excrement.
I'm not going to say don't see it. If you like torturing yourself, or just want to see how bad a film can be - see it!
Originally posted by dfm65I felt the same way about national treasure, though I saw it on video for free, I still felt robbed of my time. Very little action, and a totally predictable plot. Sahara had to better....
'Sahara' was abysmal - i can't believe i paid good money to see it at a cinema. what was i thinking? i knew it was going to be bad, but i was bored. i didn't know it was going to be THAT bad though...😠
I see a lot of terrible movies, but usually they make me laugh. I think the most disappointing film I've seen in recent memory, based on the combined pedigree of the people involved, has to be - Bringing Out The Dead - I disliked this film from the first reel and struggled to stay until the end.
Originally posted by ExyI have to type that it's been a long time since I actually watched a decent film.
I see a lot of terrible movies, but usually the make me laugh. I think the most disappointing film I've seen in recent memory, based on the combined pedigree of the people involved, has to be - [b]Bringing Out The Dead - I disliked this film from the first reel and struggled to stay until the end.[/b]
The list of crappy ones is immense.
Originally posted by dfm65You paid money t see ring 2 and blair witch 2? Wow I feel so much better, ty.
i could tell by the NT trailer that it was shite...actually, now i come to think of it, the same is true of Sahara. why did i pay good money to see that? Other crap movies i've paid good money to see include Ring 2 and the Blair Witch sequel (on video).
Originally posted by Daemon SinYou think those are depressing, try the Swedish movie:
Recently, I seem to have developed the amazing talent of going into my local DVD rental store and picking out the worst and most depressingly dull movie on it's shelves. I really don't know what it is, I'll walk in and like a homing missle I'll be lured over and pick up one of these DVD's, read the back of it and then think "Yeah, that sounds alrigh ...[text shortened]... d let me know what other movies that are out and about now that I shouldn't bother renting out?
A song for Martin. Now THATS depressing.