Notable death

@fmf said
Ali Ansarian, Iranian association football player [not the Gaelic football one].

In fact I have to admit that I have never heard of the guy, in what way was he notable (as opposed to the thousands who happened to die also?

@ponderable said
In fact I have to admit that I have never heard of the guy, in what way was he notable (as opposed to the thousands who happened to die also?

Rather some one was notable would be in the person's characterization of that persons life would it not?

-VR

@earl-of-trumps said
Somebody surer than hell got him. And an intel agent of some kind.
The American people should have been asking, "Why Nixon, why now?"

Because he was guilty as sin?

@earl-of-trumps said
Wolfe, no offense, but the CIA/FBI is way ahead of the people on such issues. They are quite used to seeing skullduggery by pols and are indifferent, but something unseen triggered this revelation.

Did you ever ask yourself why this had to be done by an unnamed agent as opposed to, letting the people know who is watching out for them? Why the secrecy?

Yes, the p ...[text shortened]... Gerald Ford oversaw the Warren Commission, the bogus coverup investigation of the JFK assassination.

This is the kind of crap that causes Capitol riots after forty years of conspiracy theorists stewing in their own juices. People start thinking the government can't be trusted. It's just another con, only this time it's in their favorite flavor, so they suck it down without a second thought.

@ponderable said
In fact I have to admit that I have never heard of the guy, in what way was he notable (as opposed to the thousands who happened to die also?

If he wasn't notable to you and you are not interested in looking him up, so be it.

Edit: or, if that seems a little too brusque, here you go ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Ansarian

In RHP terms, he is notable - perhaps mostly - because there have been hardly any, if any at all, Iranians featured on this thread.

@fmf said
If he wasn't notable to you and you are not interested in looking him up, so be it.

Edit: or, if that seems a little too brusque, here you go ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Ansarian

In RHP terms, he is notable - perhaps mostly - because there have been hardly any, if any at all, Iranians featured on this thread.

I did look him up and did not find anything which would elevate him above the other about 20 death reported in the Wikipedia. The person posting this should know something I don't (in fact I don't read Farsi, otherwise I could have read up on the Iranian sit which probably has much more detail...

@ponderable said
I did look him up and did not find anything which would elevate him above the other about 20 death reported in the Wikipedia. The person posting this should know something I don't (in fact I don't read Farsi, otherwise I could have read up on the Iranian sit which probably has much more detail...

So on this thread for people's mentions of "Notable Deaths", you feel they must be deaths that you yourself feel are notable?

@fmf said
So on this thread for people's mentions of "Notable Deaths", you feel they must be deaths that you yourself feel are notable?

No. But at least I expect to understand why other feel that they were notable.

Since you posted about him you should at least know for yourself.

And I did note that you tried to evade the matter "notable" by making an ad hominem attack trying to ridicule me for an egocentric. This is not something I like to see anywhere about anybody.

@ponderable said
And I did note that you tried to evade the matter "notable" by making an ad hominem attack trying to ridicule me for an egocentric. This is not something I like to see anywhere about anybody.

If, having looked him up, you don't think he was notable, that's OK. If you feel that you are the target of "ridicule", that's a pity.

@ponderable said
No. But at least I expect to understand why other feel that they were notable.

Iran has been seen as a pariah state for 40 years. Iranians have been dehumanized in the West for 40 years. Why not mark the death of an A-list Iranian celebrity on a thread like this? If he had been an Israeli international soccer player and actor and TV presenter - and all-round A-list celebrity - with similar achievements, he'd probably have been a bit famous in the West. But he's Iranian.

@ponderable said
And I did note that you tried to evade the matter "notable" by making an ad hominem attack trying to ridicule me for an egocentric.

I haven't said you are "egocentric". That is a word you have introduced into this conversation, not me.

You may be being a wee bit culture-centric - and it's not an "attack" for me to say so - because even after looking him up, you still couldn't empathize with the death of a notable Iranian.

Now I can be culture-centric too, I am sure I am, so don't take my suggestion that you might have been [viz a viz Ali Ansarian] to heart.

If I someday mention an A-list celebrity multi-talented Indonesian on this thread, there will be no need for you to chase after me for it.

If that Indonesian, whoever they may be, is not notable in your culture or to you, so be it.

-Removed-

No. But I reserve the right to ask.

@ponderable said
No. But I reserve the right to ask.

If, for example, you looked up Cicely Tyson on Wikipedia and saw why she was notable, would you STILL feel the need to ask the person who cited Cicely Tyson's death about why she was notable? You can substitute "Cicely Tyson" with any of the dozens and dozens of other deceased people on this thread you might not have known and about whom you did not ask.