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Originally posted by FMF
My essential moral compass has not changed. I have simply discarded the superstition and religious dogma. My views on violence and on women's rights have been unaffected by becoming an ex-Christian

Can you tell us what guides your moral compass now that you have dispensed with Christianity?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well row row row your boat down the middle of the stream, merrily merrily life is but a dream!

Still only this facetious retort to my direct and sincere answer to your personal criticism?

Originally posted by FMF
Still only this facetious retort to my direct and sincere answer to your personal criticism?

I like the tune.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Can you tell us what guides your moral compass now that you have dispensed with Christianity?

I believe we are hard wired to be basically both social ~ and therefore moral ~ creatures. Don't harm others. Don't deceive others. Don't coerce others. They are the bare bones of it. The reality of the human condition adds muscle and sinews, of course. I have discussed this with you dozens of times on the spirituality Forum. If you want to discuss it with me yet again, start a thread there.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I like the tune.

But it shows that you have great difficulty discussing things in a sincere fashion sometimes.

Originally posted by FMF
I believe we are hard wired to be basically both social ~ and therefore moral ~ creatures. Don't harm others. Don't deceive others. Don't coerce others. They are the bare bones of it. The reality of the human condition adds muscle and sinews, of course. I have discussed this with you dozens of times on the spirituality Forum. If you want to discuss it with me yet again, start a thread there.

you could have simply stated your conscience and that would have sufficed.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you could have simply stated your conscience and that would have sufficed.

Well I am fairly sure you would have made a facetious comment if I had given you only a two word answer.

Originally posted by FMF
But it shows that you have great difficulty discussing things in a sincere fashion sometimes.

Does it? oh well, you could be correct, yet maybe i simply cannot be bothered? Is that the same as having a 'great difficulty'?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Does it? oh well, you could be correct, yet maybe i simply cannot be bothered? Is that the same as having a 'great difficulty'?

It just shows that you have difficulties with sincerity. You can dismiss or condemn someone's ethical views but you can't really talk very genuinely thereafter. It's not the first time I've seen this.

Originally posted by FMF
Well I am fairly sure you would have made a facetious comment if I had given you only a two word answer.

Perhaps, I dunno, hard to say.

Originally posted by FMF
It just shows that you have difficulties with sincerity. You can dismiss or condemn someone's ethical views but you can't really talk very genuinely thereafter. It's not the first time I've seen this.

So lacking motivation is the same as lacking sincerity, hows that Dr. Freud?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Sigh FMF is a victim of the shifting sands of social convention and what is deemed to be politically correct, constantly in a state of flux, he picks those elements which appeals to him personally and rejects those which don't upon the great ethical buffet table. Its a room full or mirrors.

Regarding my ethics you mentioned them being subject to "shifting sands" and being "constantly in a state of flux". I showed this not to be so. You have evaded the topic since then. Do you have a genuine response to offer?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
So lacking motivation is the same as lacking sincerity, hows that Dr. Freud?

The only motivation you felt was to question my ethics after what I have been saying about violence and women?

Originally posted by FMF
Regarding my ethics you mentioned them being subject to "shifting sands" and being "constantly in a state of flux". I showed this not to be so. You have evaded the topic since then. Do you have a genuine response to offer?

and yet i offered the rather obvious evidence that you have taken to dispense with your Christianity, a process of complete metamorphosis from being a Christian to a non Christian. You attempted to diminish the fact by stating that your core values had not essentially changed when quite clearly this is a rather profound step to have taken. Why this should be construed as lack of a genuine response is not immediately discernible but i know from experience you have a propensity to believe nothing but your own propaganda.

Originally posted by FMF
The only motivation you felt was to question my ethics after what I have been saying about violence and women?

so its not the same thing, you simply made it up that I have difficulty when in fact i may simply lack motivation? Is this another instance of your willingness to simply believe your own propaganda? I have said nothing specific about your stance with regard to violence or women.