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Originally posted by belgianfreak
even if his son analyses the move just made it's still outside assistance. For example, he plays a move and his son says "yeah great move" he'll continue with the line he's following. If however his son says "oooh, not so hot" even with no more detail he'll know to reassess his thinking.

Every way it's looked at, asking an engine or another person to comment on a game in progress is a no-no.
not true. Edit: (the first part, asking/taking assistance is clearly wrong)

Unless i've forgotten the posed example:

1. Play move
2. son determines opponents next move (no information passed apart from the move played. This could simple be an e-mail stating the game number to look at, so no person-to-person meeting)
3. opponent moves
4. son confirms move matches engine

There is no assistance. There is no comment, apart from "that matched". This does not contravene "(b) You will not use chess engines, chess software, chess computers or consult any third party to assist you in any game. Chess books and databases can be consulted during play ".

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Originally posted by pineapple42
not true.

Unless i've forgotten the posed example:

1. Play move
2. son determines opponents next move (no information passed apart from the move played. This could simple be an e-mail stating the game number to look at, so no person-to-person meeting)
3. opponent moves
4. son confirms move matches engine

There is no assistance. There is no c ...[text shortened]... hird party to assist you in any game. Chess books and databases can be consulted during play ".
For me it sounds very critical this "son strategy" and I do not see the reason. If the opponent's move is an engine match, it doesn't seem to say anything since several player here have found that their games had matches between 30%-80% (if I remember correctly).
On the other hand, if it is a match it definately influences the next move of the father.

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Originally posted by pineapple42
4. son confirms move matches engine. There is no assistance.
Well, its not hugely beneficial assistance, but it is still outside assistance. Just knowing that your opponent's move matched a strong engine can assist you, and may well influence your next move.

For example, you would hardly bother trying to find any tactical errors your opponent had just made, would you?

As XanthosNZ said, only analyse the game when its over.

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Originally posted by Gatecrasher
For example, you would hardly bother trying to find any tactical errors your opponent had just made, would you?[/b]
point taken. best scrub my argument as it's invalid - sorry.

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Originally posted by Gatecrasher

As XanthosNZ said, only analyse the game when its over.
Or ask others to analyse them when they are finished. 😉

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Originally posted by MIODude
I don't see the draw still if I played Kb6 on black 63. I see thought that I might have advantage then?
63 .. Kb6 64. Kb4 Kb6 65. Kxa4 Kc4 66. Ka5 Kc5 67. a4 Kc4
and that would lead to me taking the pawn ?
or..
if you don't play a4, but instead 67. Ka6, then I would play .. Kb6 and mirror you right down .. then, as soon as you move the pawn, the ex ...[text shortened]... badly)

edit: 34 ... Nc1.. in hindsight,, definately a blunder.. seemed good at the time.. 😛
how about:
63 ..Kc6 64 Kb4 Kd5 65 Kxa4 Kc4 66 Ka5 Kd3 67 a4 Kc2 68 Kb6 Kxb2 69 a5 Kc2 70 a6 b2 71 a7 b1-queen-check

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Originally posted by MIODude
I don't see the draw still if I played Kb6 on black 63. I see thought that I might have advantage then?
63 .. Kb6 ...
an obvious path to a draw after 63 .. Kc6 is for white to play king down to a1 and b1, protecting the base pawn.

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