@wolfgang59 saidI protest. Napoleon abdicated twice, in 1814 and in 1815. The final year, after a brief return to power, included Waterloo.ANSWERS
1. 1814
Napoleon Bonaparte abdicated in 1814 prior to his exile to Elba.
(Although he "abdicated" again a few days after Waterloo it is debatable it is
valid because he was never officially recognised as Emperor - indeed the
people and provisional government turned against him prior to his abdication -
nevertheless, 1815 was not an option so the only answer was 1814.)
15 Aug 20
@handyandy saidThat's what I said.
I protest. Napoleon abdicated twice, in 1814 and in 1815. The final year, after a brief return to power, included Waterloo.
The dispute is whether the "glorious 100 days" was really a full return to power.
I avoided controversy by not giving 1815 as possible answer.
Thanks for playing.
15 Aug 20
@wolfgang59 saidCapital punishment was abolished in in the uk 1969ANSWERS
1. 1814
Napoleon Bonaparte abdicated in 1814 prior to his exile to Elba.
(Although he "abdicated" again a few days after Waterloo it is debatable it is
valid because he was never officially recognised as Emperor - indeed the
people and provisional government turned against him prior to his abdication -
nevertheless, 1815 was not a ...[text shortened]... a of the order of historical events but I'm not good with dates.
I can remember nice round numbers!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_Kingdom
@wolfgang59 saidI got all four correct 🙂
Nobody got 4/4 so you're joint top!
(Admittedly by some guesswork)
15 Aug 20
@divegeester saidLook into it a bit more without the ever disputed Wiki and you’ll find that it was‘t technically abolished until 1998.
Capital punishment was abolished in in the uk 1969
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_Kingdom
@trev33 saidYes. I’m aware of that. Technically Napoleon abdicated twice but the widely accepted date is 1814 due to chronology and political impact etc.
Look into it a bit more without the ever disputed Wiki and you’ll find that it was‘t technically abolished until 1998.
Similarly the widely accepted date for the abolition of capital punishment in the UK is 1969 which is when the legislature finally passed the bill from a few years previous. It’s common historical knowledge, the “technicality” accepting.
@divegeester saidWell, there’s ‘wildly accepted’ and then there’s truth. In your wildly accepted world N. Ireland wouldn’t be part of the UK as it abolished capital punishment in 1973, so whatever way you want to look at it your ‘wildly accepted’ 1969 is just plain inaccurate.
Yes. I’m aware of that. Technically Napoleon abdicated twice but the widely accepted date is 1814 due to chronology and political impact etc.
Similarly the widely accepted date for the abolition of capital punishment in the UK is 1969 which is when the legislature finally passed the bill from a few years previous. It’s common historical knowledge, the “technicality” accepting.
15 Aug 20
@trev33 saidThere’s no need to get snippy about it Trev. Its just a quiz.
Well, there’s ‘wildly accepted’ and then there’s truth. In your wildly accepted world N. Ireland wouldn’t be part of the UK as it abolished capital punishment in 1973, so whatever way you want to look at it your ‘wildly accepted’ 1969 is just plain inaccurate.
@divegeester saidTake your own advise and we don’t get into a discussion.
There’s no need to get snippy about it Trev. Its just a quiz.
15 Aug 20
@trev33 saidIt’s not inaccurate, the abolishment of the death penalty for the UK was 1969 and 1973 for NI.
Well, there’s ‘wildly accepted’ and then there’s truth. In your wildly accepted world N. Ireland wouldn’t be part of the UK as it abolished capital punishment in 1973, so whatever way you want to look at it your ‘wildly accepted’ 1969 is just plain inaccurate.
Wiki is an generally accepted authority which you yourself have used on many occasions I seem to remember. You know, when it suits you.
You can find a few counter references to show me if you like. I might change my mind 🙂
@divegeester saidEven in wiki it states it wasn’t fully abolished until 1998, an unused law is still a law however you want to look at it. NI is part of the UK as you know well, can’t say the UK abolished a law when NI hasn’t.
It’s not inaccurate, the abolishment of the death penalty for the UK was 1969 and 1973 for NI.
Wiki is an generally accepted authority which you yourself have used on many occasions I seem to remember. You know, when it suits you.
You can find a few counter references to show me if you like. I might change my mind 🙂
Edit: https://www.deathpenaltyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/DPP-50-Years-on-pp1-68-1.pdf
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@trev33 saidAs a neutral observer, Trev wins this discussion.
Even in wiki it states it wasn’t fully abolished until 1998, an unused law is still a law however you want to look at it. NI is part of the UK as you know well, can’t say the UK abolished a law when NI hasn’t.
Edit: https://www.deathpenaltyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/DPP-50-Years-on-pp1-68-1.pdf
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