Originally posted by KnightWulfeAahhh, so the word is "indigenous", or possibly "indigent".
I believe the use that has been attributed to it, for this conversation is those humans of an "uncivilized" culture, other related terms for indigen(ous) peoples include aborigines, native peoples, first peoples, Fourth World. Those cultures reletively untouched by the modern world.
Ok, I was leaning that way, but hell, there's a lot of supposedly english-speaking people on this site that butcher the language quite badly, not to mention non-americans who do things differently than we do, so I wondered if maybe this was a slang word or something I didn't know.
ok, lol... /hijack off π
Originally posted by SuzianneSo, what are your thoughts?
Aahhh, so the word is "indigenous", or possibly "indigent".
Ok, I was leaning that way, but hell, there's a lot of supposedly english-speaking people on this site that butcher the language quite badly, not to mention non-americans who do things differently than we do, so I wondered if maybe this was a slang word or something I didn't know.
ok, lol... /hijack off π
Originally posted by RagnorakSounds like you are speaking of capitalism with a right wing conspiricy.
Fair enough, I didn't make my point well last night due to a blinding migraine (which I still have, but I'll try anyway)
Civilised humans are inherently selfish, indigen humans aren't.
I don't believe you'd see much selfish behaviour if you went to live with a tribe in the jungle for a while. They know they wouldn't survive if they didn't work togeth ...[text shortened]... by Daniel Quinn, who can articulate a point much better than I can at the moment.
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Originally posted by SuzianneLooking indigen up in a dictionary would have sorted out your confusion.
Aahhh, so the word is "indigenous", or possibly "indigent".
Indigenous is right, indigent isn't. In fact, when I think of indigen people, I think the opposite of indigent.
in·di·gen
n.
One that is native or indigenous to an area.
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Originally posted by KnightWulfeSo you're saying that the need of humanity (individually) to survive (to pass on their genes) is selfishness.
On a side note - I hope that migraine (a pain with which I am most familiar) does not continue until your match. That would suck!
Again, that indigen human is selfish to the point that they can get away with. They know that if the tribe is not strong, they are not strong, so their selfish behavior is shaped by that reality. Were they truly not selfish ...[text shortened]... here are separate tribes, who do fight and swabble over all shared resources that are available.
So, what you're saying is that every living species (including plant) is selfish? Does that not negate the usefulness of the word if it applies to absolutely every living thing?
Thanks, my migraine has just turned into a dull throbbing spearlike pain in my head now, which is a nice change. At least I can see again.
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Originally posted by Ragnorakself·ish (sĕl'fĭsh)
So you're saying that the need of humanity (individually) to survive (to pass on their genes) is selfishness.
So, what you're saying is that every living species (including plant) is selfish? Does that not negate the usefulness of the word if it applies to absolutely every living thing?
Thanks, my migraine has just turned into a dull throbbing spearlike pain in my head now, which is a nice change. At least I can see again.
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adj.
Concerned chiefly or only with oneself
Boiled down to its core meaning, yes. Ultimately EVERYTHING has as its primary concern - self. There are varying degrees in which this is seen and often times, with sentient creatures, very little is seen at all, but the basic instinct is still there. Concern for self is met in the three basic drives of anything with a brain - eat, sleep and sex (procreation.)
Example (hypothetical) -
You are in the desert and have been for days. You have had no water. You come across a small amount of water, but see that someone else, who appears in the same condition as you has just seen it as well, and is in just as bad a shape as you. The amount there will allow you to survive, but only enough for one person to survive. Do you take it and let the other person die or do you give it up and die yourself, if:
A) That person is a stranger?
B) That person is someone you know?
C) That person is a friend?
D) That person is the love of your life?
Are you selfish enough to keep it to yourself in all of these situations?
But back to the core of why people are rude buggers on the net is because they can do it without suffering an repercussions. I guarantee you that 95% of them would not mouth off like they do in a face to face situation because they would have to answer for it.
Originally posted by RagnorakOh, I see now... the word you are *trying* to use is "indigene" noun. an indigenous person.
Looking indigen up in a dictionary would have sorted out your confusion.
Indigenous is right, indigent isn't. In fact, when I think of indigen people, I think the opposite of indigent.
[b]in·di·gen
n.
One that is native or indigenous to an area.
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There is no word "indigen" in my dictionary, sorry... I don't know which one you are using.
I looked it up in a dictionary, dipstick, and it didn't help my confusion. People using made-up words don't either.
Originally posted by Suziannehttp://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=indigen
Oh, I see now... the word you are *trying* to use is "indigene" noun. an indigenous person.
There is no word "indigen" in my dictionary, sorry... I don't know which one you are using.
I looked it up in a dictionary, dipstick, and it didn't help my confusion. People using made-up words don't either.
Originally posted by SuzianneAnd you're even english speaking.............π
Oh, I see now... the word you are *trying* to use is "indigene" noun. an indigenous person.
There is no word "indigen" in my dictionary, sorry... I don't know which one you are using.
I looked it up in a dictionary, dipstick, and it didn't help my confusion. People using made-up words don't either.
Originally posted by SuzianneI beg to differ, as does every other online ENGLISH dictionary I can find.
Oh, I see now... the word you are *trying* to use is "indigene" noun. an indigenous person.
There is no word "indigen" in my dictionary, sorry... I don't know which one you are using.
I looked it up in a dictionary, dipstick, and it didn't help my confusion. People using made-up words don't either.
http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=indigen+definition&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=indigen
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=indigen
http://dict.die.net/indigen/
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=ob6kwtu1req3?method=4&dsid=1555&dekey=I0106000&gwp=8&curtab=1555_1&sbid=lc02a
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/indigen
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/indigen
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/indigen
Its not my fault if you looked it up in a foreign language dictionary.
I'll accept your apology for calling me a dipstick and for your general snotty tone in the quoted post. Now, lets be friends. ©
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Originally posted by RavelloHere is a whole google search link on the "word" indigen. But I must say that it seems like an argument that makes little difference in my book. I think half the English words should get expelled from the dictionary for lack of use. It's to me just a bunch verbal intellectual snobbery that keeps people who can't tie their shoes from being exposed as the derelicts that they truly are. I'm for calling it a typo and just moving on to solving world peace.π
And you're even english speaking.............π