Originally posted by FMF Do people you smoke dope with tolerate you saying pointlessly grotesque and poisonous things like some of the stuff you say on this message board or do you take care in those situations to surround yourself with people who think you are funny?
I smoke alone. I have no friends and nobody thinks I'm funny.
Does that knowledge make you happy? Accomplished that the
stereotype you have formed of me is correct?
I quit a few times without permanent success. Then I sought medical help because I was really scared that I'd die in my 30s. There was a drug available, called Champix, which helped me stop. There have since been much tighter restrictions on its prescription because it can cause suicidal ideation. I don't think I would have been allowed to take it after these restrictions came into effect. NB there is an earlier drug too: Zyban. I'm not sure about the differences between them. I haven't smoked a cigarette since April 1st 2008 (not an April Fool), nor a cigar or any marijuana (I had already stopped smoking marijuana for some time before that).
I started smoking at 10 but not seriously till about 13. I tried quitting three times over the course of some 26 years. Twice I quit for 2 years then on my third attempt I announced to my work colleagues that here was my last pack, then here was my last cigarette and finally here was my last puff and that was 31 years ago. I did at the beginning replace them with food stuffs and managed to put on about 15 lbs, only about 5 of which I've managed to lose over the years but they were lbs I could afford to gain with not too much worry. As seems, from hearing from successful quitters, the best way is cold turkey. No matter how many people tell you to quit or you kid yourself that you'll quit when they get "too expensive", you and only you make and carry out the final choice to do so. Congrats to all who not only try but are able to kick, what is a very addictive habit.
Originally posted by Great Big Stees I did at the beginning replace them with food stuffs and managed to put on about 15 lbs, only about 5 of which I've managed to lose over the years but they were lbs I could afford to gain with not too much worry.
I also gained weight after April 1992 (when I stopped for good). What was interesting was that, after June 1991 when I started again after a year or so of going without cigarettes, I lost a lot of weight. I moved to Indonesia in September 1991 and my diet changed and for a few months I walked about 2 km a day. In June of that year (when I went back on the cigarettes) I had a medical and weighed in at 113 kg. When I had a medical in Jakarta in November 1991, I was 89 kg.
Originally posted by FMF More details please? 🙂
I remember quitting while on holiday in Spain after passing my GCSEs. That lasted for 3, or possibly 9, months. I also used the Allen Carr book, which I thought had been successful but wasn't. When you read it again after having started smoking again it doesn't really work. There were probably other times but they didn't last long. After using Champix I didn't even have cravings (except maybe a few weak ones years later with).
I'm not a biologist, let alone a geneticist, so I can't back this up with the facts, but from the research I did afterwards I believe going cold turkey is effectively impossible for people whose genes cause them to metabolise nicotine in a certain way (impossible, or very near it). I believe I am one of those people.
Originally posted by NoEarthlyReason I'm not a biologist, let alone a geneticist, so I can't back this up with the facts, but from the research I did afterwards I believe going cold turkey is effectively impossible for people whose genes cause them to metabolise nicotine in a certain way (impossible, or very near it). I believe I am one of those people.
Can you describe what this "impossible" thing felt like? I think the challenge that makes cold turkey 'hurt' so much feels like it is "impossible" at times. I think if one stops and only experiences discomfort, I'm not really sure that it deserves the label 'going cold turkey'. When you say "going cold turkey is effectively impossible for people whose genes cause them to metabolize nicotine in a certain way" do you mean that such drastic action poses an actual threat to these people's health?