Originally posted by badmoonAbsolutely....although i'd say Green Days's Nookie album marked the end of music.
Rock and Roll has produced nearly nothing substantial from new artists in roughly 12 years. Those of you born after 1978 are to blame for this. You haven't pulled your creative weight at all. Too absorbed in your 92 second Youtube videos is what i think.
Some pockets of stuff here and there but it's been an ocean of mediocrity ever since.
Originally posted by darvlaythink his point is that after 12 yeas it's still the same. Stuff today sounds like it did back then except studio'd up. Where's the new sound?
Don't blame us because you're out of touch, Gramps. Just keep playing those old records over and over and over again and keep telling yourself it'll never be the same.
Sure we could delve into the underground and download to ipods some stuff that may or may not just be fadish with a shelf life shorter than Humpty Dumpty potato chips but it was actually nice to be able to just turn the radio on after 10pm and get your 4 hour fix of quality when I was at University.
Originally posted by badmoonA lot of the stuff on American Idol is great. Have you tried any of that? Some of the songs are over 3 minutes, though, which is way too long for a song. I often find myself hopping on myspace or texting my friends after the 2 minute mark.
Rock and Roll has produced nearly nothing substantial from new artists in roughly 12 years. Those of you born after 1978 are to blame for this. You haven't pulled your creative weight at all. Too absorbed in your 92 second Youtube videos is what i think.
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Originally posted by badmoonNot true. Good rock has gone underground, that's all. Which is a good thing, because it's just about musicians and fans who have a passion for it, rather than liking it because it is the 'in thing'. it's there if you know where to look.
Rock and Roll has produced nearly nothing substantial from new artists in roughly 12 years. Those of you born after 1978 are to blame for this. You haven't pulled your creative weight at all. Too absorbed in your 92 second Youtube videos is what i think.
Originally posted by Iron MonkeyAgain, we are missing the point here. Why is it underground? Put it on the radio if it's so good!
Not true. Good rock has gone underground, that's all. Which is a good thing, because it's just about musicians and fans who have a passion for it, rather than liking it because it is the 'in thing'. it's there if you know where to look.
This is the fact we are lementing. The demise of quality radio in the last 15 years!
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Originally posted by uzlessNo, read the original post. Nothing was mentioned about radio.
Again, we are missing the point here. Why is it underground? Put it on the radio if it's so good!
This is the fact we are lementing. The demise of quality radio in the last 15 years!
But to answer your question: the reason it is underground is that there aren't enough people who appreciate it. The problem isn't a supply problem, but a demand problem. The bands are out there, but there aren't enough fans who dig, dig?.
And it's 'lAmenting'.
Originally posted by Iron Monkeyeasy on the grammar, i'm on a wireless keyboard about 20 feet from the tv....hard to even see the letters.
No, read the original post. Nothing was mentioned about radio.
But to answer your question: the reason it is underground is that there aren't enough people who appreciate it. The problem isn't a supply problem, but a demand problem. The bands are out there, but there aren't enough fans who dig, dig?.
And it's 'lAmenting'.
Yes, i know raido wasn't mentioned in the original post but that's essentially what we're talking about.
Of course, there will always be good music available in the underground music scene...any underground music scene will have good music for any specific genre.
What were talking about is bringing music back to it's hey days of the early 90's where everywhere you turned you could find good music. It was so easy to find. Radio, TV, and clubs all had good stuff. Now all 3 main media sources are garbage, save for a select few in the downtown areas of major urban centres.
That standard, "there is good music, you just have to know whee to find it" line doesn't cut it. Good music shouldn't be hard to find! All you should have to do is press the power button.
But Viacom and Clear Channel are here to stay i guess. 😞
Originally posted by uzlessit sounds to me like you just want it delivered up for you on a plate, rather than having to go to the effort to uncover good music by actively seeking it out. but the brutal fact is, it's a $-driven industry, and the music that gains prominence is the music that people who can't be bothered looking beneath the surface like. that's what gets bought, and so that's what gets on radio, tv, and is pushed by the record companies. if more people went looking for good music rather than just accepting what was thrust at them, then good music would be more readily available.
easy on the grammar, i'm on a wireless keyboard about 20 feet from the tv....hard to even see the letters.
Yes, i know raido wasn't mentioned in the original post but that's essentially what we're talking about.
Of course, there will always be good music available in the underground music scene...any underground music scene will have good music for any ...[text shortened]... press the power button.
But Viacom and Clear Channel are here to stay i guess. 😞
i agree that good music was more available in the 90s but that was mainly because Nirvana turned kids on to the alternative scene. this lasted for a bit, then people went back to sleep.
Originally posted by Iron Monkey"Actively seeking it out" how exactly?
it sounds to me like you just want it delivered up for you on a plate, rather than having to go to the effort to uncover good music by actively seeking it out. but the brutal fact is, it's a $-driven industry, and the music that gains prominence is the music that people who can't be bothered looking beneath the surface like. that's what gets bought, and ...[text shortened]... ned kids on to the alternative scene. this lasted for a bit, then people went back to sleep.
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Originally posted by pawnhandlerthe internet is a great tool for this. among many other kinds of music, i like 'shoegazer', for example, which had its heyday in the late 80s - early 90s. starting from fairly well-known bands within that genre, i've discovered many of the lesser-known (but no less talented) acts, even though they were never well-known, sold very little, and haven't been active for 10-20 years - usually i have to get their stuff by mail (internet) order, as the stores don't stock it because it's not profitable.
"Actively seeking it out" how exactly?
but the same can be done to discover emerging new bands, and i do that too.
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Originally posted by badmoonYou've never heard the Fratellis then, or The View ?
Rock and Roll has produced nearly nothing substantial from new artists in roughly 12 years. Those of you born after 1978 are to blame for this. You haven't pulled your creative weight at all. Too absorbed in your 92 second Youtube videos is what i think.
The bands are there, it's tastes that've changed. The Artic monkeys, and Razorlight are also signs that rock music is still there, if underappreciated.
Originally posted by badmoonYou're wrong, you just don't know where to look, broseph.
Rock and Roll has produced nearly nothing substantial from new artists in roughly 12 years. Those of you born after 1978 are to blame for this. You haven't pulled your creative weight at all. Too absorbed in your 92 second Youtube videos is what i think.
Originally posted by Ice ColdOh God. The 80's marked the worst of any music...ever.
As a metal head, I think the stuff now is better than 90% of the crap in the 80s. All the Glam rockers and hair bands. *shivver*
And who the hell says the 60's or 70's were really that good? As far as I'm concerned 60's and 70's rock music is simply...overrated.