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Originally posted by rhbThat's your opinion, and you're welcome to it.
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Rooney stamped on Carvalho, regardless of what went before it he deserved to be shown a card for retaliation. Pushing Ronaldo away didn't help his cause either.
It was just like watching Beckham at '98 - arguably it was not a foul that warranted a card, but the matter of retaliation which made it a straight Red.
Edit: I'm not happy about hrough Rooney, and then the soft penalties. Galant Losers as always, hard done by as always.
I think that the ref should have been the Mexican for the final, he had a great game in the semi and is well worthy for the final.
The ref that sent Rooney off should have given the foul before he trod on the Portugese's groin and would have prevented the following incident from happening. I think he was trying to let the game flow, but there's letting it flow and there's waiting till it's too late. I do think it was an accident and didn't deserve a red card.
The player's that ask for card's should be booked and warned by FIFA if they do it again they will be banned from the next game. That should hopefully start to stamp that out, pardon the pun. 😉
Originally posted by expressiveoutburstI don't think the refs in the semis even are eligible for the final. I think I remember hearing something like that in the last World Cup, but I'm not sure. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
I think that the ref should have been the Mexican for the final, he had a great game in the semi and is well worthy for the final.
The ref that sent Rooney off should have given the foul before he trod on the Portugese's groin and would have prevented the following incident from happening. I think he was trying to let the game flow, but there's ...[text shortened]... ned from the next game. That should hopefully start to stamp that out, pardon the pun. 😉
Will you be in favour of all English players that demanded yellow cards for alleged diving be booked and warned? What about coaches?
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Originally posted by PalynkaWho got a yellow card for diving?
Will you be in favour of all English players that demanded yellow cards for alleged diving be booked and warned? What about coaches?
I know there were plenty of candidates but did any actually get them?
Nobody had to demand the refs to dish out cards for ordinary fouls; but for diving they seemed very reluctant.
Some of the coaches were a disgrace too. 😞
Haha, I like the "alleged" bit.😀
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveThere's the hypocrisy. It doesn't really matter, does it? Players demand the cards before they know if he's going to get it or not.
Who got a yellow card for diving?
I know there were plenty of candidates but did any actually get them?
Nobody had to demand the refs to dish out cards for ordinary fouls; but for diving they seemed very reluctant.
Some of the coaches were a disgrace too. 😞
Again, the special status given to Ronaldo is telling.
Originally posted by PalynkaAll player's, manager's, assistant's, press people linked to the official team, team official's and anyone else.
Will you be in favour of all English players that demanded yellow cards for alleged diving be booked and warned? What about coaches?
It needs to be stopped. It's driving me mental watching all the cheating that's going on so far in this world cup.
Originally posted by rhbHave you been watching a different Portugal to me? In the semi Ronaldo went for a header in the box and was diving before the ball actually came over. It's nothing to do with English inability to accept the result.
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Rooney stamped on Carvalho, regardless of what went before it he deserved to be shown a card for retaliation. Pushing Ronaldo away didn't help his cause either.
It was just like watching Beckham at '98 - arguably it was not a foul that warranted a card, but the matter of retaliation which made it a straight Red.
Edit: I'm not happy about ...[text shortened]... through Rooney, and then the soft penalties. Galant Losers as always, hard done by as always.[/b
Figo headbutts a dutch player in the game before (in which there were 16 yellows and 4 reds!!! but its ok because England are the dirty b**tards) and FIFA say "it's been dealt with by the ref. A bloody yellow card!!
Now Rooney is being hung out to dry because he wasn't cute enough.
The ref was useless. FIFA are useless. And Portugal have won as much as England for all their antics. Nothing.
Originally posted by Dr WuI didn't lambast Portuguese players in my post about Rooney and England because it wasn't relevant to my point.
Have you been watching a different Portugal to me? In the semi Ronaldo went for a header in the box and was diving before the ball actually came over. It's nothing to do with English inability to accept the result.
Figo headbutts a dutch player in the game before (in which there were 16 yellows and 4 reds!!! but its ok because England are the dirty b**tard ...[text shortened]... s. FIFA are useless. And Portugal have won as much as England for all their antics. Nothing.
Regardless of what went before, Rooney should not have retaliated by treading on his opponents knackers.
The Semi and the Holland game have nothing to do with Rooneys discipline, nor England as a nation bemoaning our woeful luck once again. We make our own luck, or at least we would if we showed a bit of enthusiasm coupled with temperance.