@Rajk999 saidI always check myfood for a few hours in a chemical lab... one of the reasons I don't eat...
Check for BPA in the canned beans. BPA can cause some health problems if too much canned food is used. The only canned stuff I use is sardines or tuna etc. Pressure cooking is the easiest thing and it comes out perfect, and tastier than canned. Healthier too.
Checking for Bisphenol A is absolutely impossible for the normal person (and even for a common chemist i a standard lab).
@Ponderable saidFunny ...
I always check myfood for a few hours in a chemical lab... one of the reasons I don't eat...
Checking for Bisphenol A is absolutely impossible for the normal person (and even for a common chemist i a standard lab).
Canned food that contains BPA will be labelled as such. I thought in most countries this is required by law. Walk around the grocery and check it yourself. Some manufacturers make it a point to state that it contains no BPA.
Also labelling is something that the smart consumer and someone concerned about health needs to be wary of. The law is not on the side of the consumer. One good example is the matter of 'TransFats'. Many products states in bold that their product contains no transfats. The law in many countries allows that lie, if the amount is less than .5%. Consuming a lot of products with this low transfar content is still dangerous. In such cases the consumer who is concerned will look through the ingredients and if is such things as corn oil, soya oil, and other seed oils, you know there are in fact transfats.
This is the problem with society.... they dont read and educate themselves with what they eat. Sufficient information is there. They just dont care.
No need to go to a lab.
@Rajk999
In fact Bisphenol A is severly regulated in the EU (https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/news/bisphenol-food-health-risk if you want to read up on the science: https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/pub/6857). Tolerable intake is 0.2 nanograms per kg of body weight.
In fact BPA could be part of the packaging until it was completely banned in Dec. 2024 (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/DE/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:L_202403190).
To find amounts in the nanogram range is trace analytics and requires special methods.
@Ponderable saidSo this is a very recent decelopment. Chances are there are still packaged foods in European groceries that contain BPA. Also in other parts of the world this is still a real concern for people that consume factory foods.
@Rajk999
In fact Bisphenol A is severly regulated in the EU (https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/news/bisphenol-food-health-risk if you want to read up on the science: https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/pub/6857). Tolerable intake is 0.2 nanograms per kg of body weight.
In fact BPA could be part of the packaging until it was completely banned in Dec. 2024 (https://eur ...[text shortened]... 2403190).
To find amounts in the nanogram range is trace analytics and requires special methods.
@Rajk999
Well in 2025 the first stes were done and the development was hardly surprising.
In fact the often cursed Eu proves to act faster than other coutries here, we could note the next time people think it is a useless bureaucracy monster 😉
In fact some people think that safety regulation is unnecessary bureaucracy...
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@moonbus saidI’m not a vegetarian, I eat dairy and oily fish that is caught around the UK and North Atlantic. I grew up eating chicken and rabbit; animals that were slaughtered in front of me. Our animals had a natural life, running around outdoors up until the point of death. The increase in vegetarianism is partly a response to the prolonged cruelty of intense factory farming methods. I’m a supporter of CIWF, uk, and believe that eating more plants would reduce the need for the intensive production of meat and fish in which animals receive regular antibiotics to survive their disease infested environment.
The only difference between vegetarians and carnivores is that we don’t hear strawberries scream.
https://www.who.int/news/item/07-11-2017-stop-using-antibiotics-in-healthy-animals-to-prevent-the-spread-of-antibiotic-resistance
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@Ponderable saidGovts acting fast when things are important is a great thing. Most parts of the world people dont care about health, especially not petty things like food. The attitude is eat drink and be merry.
@Rajk999
Well in 2025 the first stes were done and the development was hardly surprising.
In fact the often cursed Eu proves to act faster than other coutries here, we could note the next time people think it is a useless bureaucracy monster 😉
In fact some people think that safety regulation is unnecessary bureaucracy...
In the case of Europe it will take a couple of years for most of the BPA stuff to get out of the groceries, as it was only a couple months ago the law was actually passed. Japan I think removed BPA from their foods about 15 years ago.
@Drewnogal saidI agree, many animals for human consumption are kept in conditions which would be called concentration camps, if humans were kept that way. Moreover, cattle produce about 15% of the world's greenhouse gasses, worldwide.
I’m not a vegetarian, I eat dairy and oily fish that is caught around the UK and North Atlantic. I grew up eating chicken and rabbit; animals that were slaughtered in front of me. Our animals had a natural life, running around outdoors up until the point of death. The increase in vegetarianism is partly a response to the prolonged cruelty of intense factory farming methods. ...[text shortened]... /07-11-2017-stop-using-antibiotics-in-healthy-animals-to-prevent-the-spread-of-antibiotic-resistance
https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/making-cattle-more-sustainable
@Ponderable saidHere is something worth checking into. Maybe we can share our findings. When the EU started putting food companies on notice about BPA, the manufacturers researched what alternatives to BPA they had and over the years came up with substitutes such as bisphenol S (BPS) and bisphenol F (BPF). These BPA substitutes-based products are consumed under the label of “BPA-free.” This term gives the impression that the products are safe, but the safety of the substitutes is not fully verified. It would be interesting to find out what are the effects on health of BPS and BPF.
@Rajk999
Well in 2025 the first stes were done and the development was hardly surprising.
In fact the often cursed Eu proves to act faster than other coutries here, we could note the next time people think it is a useless bureaucracy monster 😉
In fact some people think that safety regulation is unnecessary bureaucracy...
@Drewnogal saidThis is a good idea for small communities. In densely populated areas, its not all that practical.
I’m not a vegetarian, I eat dairy and oily fish that is caught around the UK and North Atlantic. I grew up eating chicken and rabbit; animals that were slaughtered in front of me. Our animals had a natural life, running around outdoors up until the point of death. The increase in vegetarianism is partly a response to the prolonged cruelty of intense factory farming methods. ...[text shortened]... /07-11-2017-stop-using-antibiotics-in-healthy-animals-to-prevent-the-spread-of-antibiotic-resistance
@Rajk999It appears that Bisphenol S, the replacement for Bisphenol A, is even more dangerous to healh.
In recent years, bisphenol analogues such as bisphenol S (BPS) have come to replace bisphenol A in food packaging and food containers, since bisphenol A (BPA) has been shown to leach into food and water, causing numerous negative health effects. Unfortunately, little or no research was done to determine the safety of these BPA-free products before they were marketed to the public as a healthier alternative. The latest studies have shown that some of these bisphenol analogues may be even more harmful than the original BPA in some situations. This article used a literature survey to investigate the bisphenol analogue BPS and compare it to BPA and other analogues with regards to increased obesity, metabolic disorders, cancer, and reproductive defects; among others. It was found that BPS works via different pathways than does BPA while causing equivalent obesogenic effects, such as activating preadipocytes, and that BPS was correlated with metabolic disorders, such as gestational diabetes, that BPA was not correlated with. BPS was also shown to be more toxic to the reproductive system than BPA and was shown to hormonally promote certain breast cancers at the same rate as BPA. Therefore, a strong argument may be made to regulate BPS in exactly the same manner as BPA.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7071457/
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidi made a half pot of white rice, added plum preserves, cinnamon and nutmeg
And rice pudding.
and ate the whole thing
i bet it would have been great with heavy cream
i owe you one
@rookie54 saidRice pudding is a thing of beauty.
i made a half pot of white rice, added plum preserves, cinnamon and nutmeg
and ate the whole thing
i bet it would have been great with heavy cream
i owe you one
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@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidA staple of the old school dinners.
Rice pudding is a thing of beauty.
Do our youth still like it?
On the subject of school dinners one of my favourite afters in those early 60’s was an authentic, homemade, buttered scone with grated cheese on one half and jam on the other.
@Drewnogal saidThey probably wouldn't appreciate the skin on it.
A staple of the old school dinners.
Do our youth still like it?
On the subject of school dinners one of my favourite afters in those early 60’s was an authentic, homemade, buttered scone with grated cheese on one half and jam on the other.