Originally posted by no1marauderYou're their suzerain nonetheless. Like it or not, in a feudal set-up like this, you're their superior.
Your allies recognise you as their "superior"? Funny, in the Kyushu Alliance we come to decisions by consensus. But then I don't ask my vassals to recognize me as "superior", as you seem to insist on.
No, I don't order my allies around. If "consensus" means "agreement" then we also work by consensus.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageYou do use them though. Apparently they're too timid to have a problem with being used.
You're their suzerain nonetheless. Like it or not, in a feudal set-up like this, you're their superior.
No, I don't order my allies around. If "consensus" means "agreement" then we also work by consensus.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungOh, speak up, allies, answer this fool who think's it's more honourable to die a dog's death than swear fealty to the coming Shogun, and tell him how I am "using" you.
You do use them though. Apparently they're too timid to have a problem with being used.
Enough! The next time you hear from me will be as a whispering on the wind...
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageThat's right, guys. Uesegi is commanding you - better speak up! You want to help him win at any cost right? Maybe when he's Shogun he will let you pretend you're significant.
Oh, speak up, allies, answer this fool who think's it's more honourable to die a dog's death than swear fealty to the coming Shogun, and tell him how I am "using" you.
Enough! The next time you hear from me will be as a whispering on the wind...
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungThis is just silly. As with the original MD game, I have sworn fealty to Bosse. I play the game as honourably as I am able to and this means that I honour my allegiances. As a commoner, I do not have the means to amass an army capable of controlling a victory claim percentage of the game, especially since there are other royals bound in the alliance. However, this doesn't bother me; I am not purely concerned with winning this game. I enjoy the game itself and the strategies therein and it is as enjoyable for me to know that I am part of the winning alliance, if not the victory coalition, as I would be to win outright.
That's right, guys. Uesegi is commanding you - better speak up! You want to help him win at any cost right? Maybe when he's Shogun he will let you pretend you're significant.
These petty squabbles on who is and isn't honourable are of no real consequence; Bosse has, ever since we began playing together, been entirely honest and inclusive and I respect and honour our partnership, regardless of winning or not. He is a pleasure to play with.
Originally posted by StarrmanYour ass kissing is first rate.
This is just silly. As with the original MD game, I have sworn fealty to Bosse. I play the game as honourably as I am able to and this means that I honour my allegiances. As a commoner, I do not have the means to amass an army capable of controlling a victory claim percentage of the game, especially since there are other royals bound in the alliance. Ho ...[text shortened]... pect and honour our partnership, regardless of winning or not. He is a pleasure to play with.
Originally posted by StarrmanI wasn't talking to you. You've been opposing us before anyone else. Nor did I mention honor or the lack of it. What I said was I didn't respect all those northern nations who jumped on the Uesegi bandwagon for no apparent reason and with nothing to gain. They are utterly insignificant; if all four of them were to quit their thrones, we'd still be vastly outnumbered and would almost certainly lose. But I bet they're all patting themselves on the back for "being on the winning side" despite the fact that they won't win and never had a chance to because of their tremendous timidity.
This is just silly. As with the original MD game, I have sworn fealty to Bosse. I play the game as honourably as I am able to and this means that I honour my allegiances. As a commoner, I do not have the means to amass an army capable of controlling a victory claim percentage of the game, especially since there are other royals bound in the alliance. Ho ...[text shortened]... pect and honour our partnership, regardless of winning or not. He is a pleasure to play with.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungYou know nothing of what went on in the 'northern' regions to make any claims about the northern nations.
I wasn't talking to you. You've been opposing us before anyone else. Nor did I mention honor or the lack of it. What I said was I didn't respect all those northern nations who jumped on the Uesegi bandwagon for no apparent reason and with nothing to gain. They are utterly insignificant; if their thrones, we'd still be vastly outnumbered and would almo ...[text shortened]... fact that they won't win and never had a chance to because of their tremendous timidity.
And it's hypocrite. You accuse us of being allied with someone while having no chance of winning, while you yourself are allied with the opposing faction and have no chance of winning.
That alone should tell you that there are other motivations for alliances beyond the prospect of being on the winning coalition.