Originally posted by turtlexya that was a great moment in a great episode. so was all of doctor, tenor, tinker, spy as was body and soul - both of which had some interactions between the doc and 7
...I must add this - My all time favorite Voyager moment is when the Doctor and Seven of Nine duet on "You are my sunshine". It's a great moment.
in friendship,
prad
Originally posted by slimjimThe pain...
Kirk was the best.
But I agree.
Kirk had that certain cowboyish attitude that you really want a sci-fi captain to have. (Han Solo syndrome).
Obviously Picard is the better actor, the better captain, makes better decisions, etc. etc.
Equally obvious in real life you'd rather have Picard as your captain.
But there's just something fascinating about an alien snogging, wild-eye, crappy B-acting captain that makes me want to fly star ships.
My favorite character: Commander Valerie Archer. Admittedly, this opinion is influenced by the fact that I've always found actress Kate Vernon to be so darn cute. :-)
But seriously: as an emotionally impaired computer nerd (with a nice sense of humor/self-deprication) I've always felt Data and I could be really good friends...
Kirk was best.
I just love that post! So very to the point.
Well, I enjoy watching Captain Kirk, but don't think he was best at much of anything (well...maybe at gettin' the ladies). He is an endearing character, for sure, though.
I think Kirk's best attribute is his loyalty and reliance on his friends (ie - his crew).
Just a couple of notes from the Star Trek Universe -
Patrick Stewart had preventive heart surgery last week - he had angioplasty to widen an artery.
On a sadder note - but I suppose happy as well - Jimmy Doohan will get a star on the Walk of Fame tomorrow (August 31st). It was announced recently that Mr. Doohan has Alzheimer's Disease and would be stopping public appearances. This will be his last official appearance and a lot of the TOS cast is expected to show up.
This is a nice tribute article from the Star Trek website - http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/features/specials/article/6527.html
For those fans in the Hollywood area who wish to pay tribute - the star unveiling will be in front of the Hollywood Entertainment Museum : The exact location is 7021 Hollywood Blvd. The ceremony begins at 10:30 a.m. on Tuesday, and is open to the public free of charge.
I truly wish I could go.
Originally posted by turtlexi agree. kirk is likeable, but a rather obtuse, i guess?
Well, I enjoy watching Captain Kirk, but don't think he was best at much of anything (well...maybe at gettin' the ladies). He is an endearing character, for sure, though.
what is most interesting about him, i found, was his development over the early episodes of the series from a rather narrow-minded, near-bigot, to an enlightened defender of others. part of the reason for kirk's initial persona was the still backward atmosphere of the time. for instance, the producers wouldn't allow the original 2nd in command, because they didn't think the audience was ready for a woman to be in a leadership role.
i think kirk was best however in the movies. his heroics really made an impact in them. he was quite brilliant and hilarious in what is one of my fav movies as were all the others - star trek 4! (i rank this one equal to even Insurrection which i consider a masterpiece).
in friendship,
prad
Originally posted by pradtf
i agree. kirk is likeable, but a rather obtuse, i guess?
what is most interesting about him, i found, was his development over the early episodes of the series from a rather narrow-minded, near-bigot, to an enlightened defender of others. part of the reason for kirk's initial persona was the still backward atmosphere of the time. for instance, the producers ...[text shortened]... nk this one equal to even Insurrection which i consider a masterpiece).
in friendship,
prad
Well, for sure we know about the times and what not - look how long it took for Paramount to have a woman captain?!
Kirk is definitely a product of the times, when TOS was originally on and what not.
I agree he grew more in the movies. The Voyage Home is my favorite and it plays best, I think, because of Shatner's comic timing and his general likability. Actually, that movie, for me - is just very endearing.
I think the movies allowed him to be a much more complex character, and he truly came into his own - yes the heroics and (more importantly to me) his dedication to his family/crew.
Originally posted by turtlexI grew up watching Cpt. Kirk. Sure he was a ladies man but like he stated in the movie "The Wrath of Khan" that I've cheated death many times. Picard was good as was Sisco but, if my behind was in a crack and the **** was about to hit the fan I would want Kirk and Worf by my side.
Kirk was best.
I just love that post! So very to the point.
Well, I enjoy watching Captain Kirk, but don't think he was best at much of anything (well...maybe at gettin' the ladies). He is an endearing character, for sure, though.
I think Kirk's best attribute is his loyalty and reliance on his friends (ie - his crew).
Originally posted by slimjim
I grew up watching Cpt. Kirk. Sure he was a ladies man but like he stated in the movie "The Wrath of Khan" that I've cheated death many times. Picard was good as was Sisco but, if my behind was in a crack and the **** was about to hit the fan I would want Kirk and Worf by my side.
I am with you completely on Worf. He is a warrior and incredibly loyal. However, I'd take Picard with me, just in case I needed to talk my way out of something.
Originally posted by turtlexi think worf is actually a bit more than that.
I am with you completely on Worf. He is a warrior and incredibly loyal. However, I'd take Picard with me, just in case I needed to talk my way out of something.
what he represents are the best qualities that the klingons are supposed to have - honour, courage, self-discipline. yet, he goes further - he develops tolerance, understanding, patience, even compassion.
he evolves out of his "red alert" mode so amusingly resplendant in the first few episodes and becomes a figure of heroic abilities.
his behaviour is always a foil against which the less attractive klingons are sharply contrasted. the phrase "they have no honour" is repeatedly applied by worf himself to the other klingons.
worf is roddenberry's demonstration that regardless of race or background or abilities, a truly honourable being dignifies all of our existences.
in friendship,
prad
ps btw, michael dorn's audition for worf was rather amusing. he went in, read his lines very gruffly as befitting a klingon, then walked out - no thank you, no nothing. i guess they all thought he's my klingon!
Great comments and I agree - Worf is a great character, his honor is amazing.
I think he's been one of the better defined characters in Trek, actually.
Mr. James Doohan got his star on the Walk of Fame - a great honor.
Mr. George Takei spoke to the crowd --> "We've gathered from throughout this planet to say congratulations to you, Jimmy," Takei said. "We love you and we thank you for your luminous talent. We thank you for the gift you have given us of that unforgettable character, that ingenious and beloved engineer that was able to fix anything."