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The IRONMAN Episode bothered me

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Originally posted by angie88
no, you misinterpreted my post 😉
I've spoken to people who know him personally, and they all agree on this issue. I am playing him on a different internet site who's name I am for some reason not allowed to spell out as my post will then be auto-removed.
Sorry if I confused you 😉
You might find in the long run that the people you think know him personally really don't, only his online personna. Take that from a veteran of more forum battles then I care to count.

I actually do know no1 marauder offline, since Im his uncle, but I wouldn't expect anybody to take my word that he formed his opinion on solid evidence.
Russ required even stronger evidence, which the game mods provided. This is a crucial factor in the matter. You can disregard no1's data if you like and rely on his other friend's word, but you cannot find any motivation for Russ to ban your friend other than he was indeed caught cheating by the game mods.

The pity of it all is the reaction of nice people like you, thinking they are supporting a wrongly accused friend , when that friend not only is guilty, but is also guilty of betraying that friendship.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
It is possible to do what Ragnorak does and torture an analysis into a high matchup in some cases if you are trying to force a high matchup out of the data
Do you ever stop with the lies? It seems you need to lie like other people might need a coffee. There's only 1 person torturing analysis to suit their needs here...

...2Bits move....Me...Arrakis...2Bit's 'Analysis'...
24...Ke2.........Ke2....Ke2.......Rb1
32...Qd3........Qd3....???........g3
35...Rxd5.......Rxd5...Rxd5....Rf4
39...Rd2.........Rd2....Rd2......Rc5+
40...Kb5.........Kb5.....Kb5......Rd4
41...g4..........g4.......g4........Rd3
42...Rd1........Rd1.....2nd......Rd3

So, out of the 7 moves that the three of us analysed, I agreed with your 'analysis' on 0 moves (0% ), Arrakis agreed with you on 1 move (14% ), and Arrakis agreed with my analysis on 6 moves (86% ).

So what you got cookin' there, 2Bit?

D

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Data that above analysis is based on...

2Bit's analysis of his own moves.
http://www.timeforchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=27838&page=11

...Mine Fritz Difference
24 Ke2 Rb1 .62
32 Qd3 g3 .28
35 Rxd5 Rf4 .78
39 Rd2 Rc5+ .25
40 Kb5 Rd4 .38
41 g4 Rd3 .27
42 Rd1 Rd3 .26
47 Ke5 Re4 .68
51 Ke3 Kd3 .75
52 Re4 Kd3 .20

Arrakis' analysis of the game
http://www.timeforchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=27838&page=12

ALL MOVES ARE MATCHED AS BEST MOVE BY FRITZ UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED:

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qc7 8. Qf3
b5 9. f5 b4 10. Ncb5 axb5 11. Bxb5+ Bd7 12. fxe6 Bxb5 13. Nxb5 Qc5 14. Bxf6
fxe6 15. Nd4 gxf6 16. Nxe6 Qc4 17. Qxf6 Nd7 18. Nc7+ Qxc7 19. Qxh8 Qc5 20. Qxh7
Qe3+ 21. Kf1 O-O-O 22. Qh3 Qc5 {2nd choice} 23. Qd3 {2nd choice} Bg7 24. Ke2
Ne5 25. Qb3 {2nd choice} Nc4 26. Raf1 {2nd choice} Re8 27. Qh3+ Kb8 {2nd choice
} 28. Rf4 Bh6 29. Rhf1 Bxf4 30. Rxf4 Nxb2 31. Qb3 Nc4 32. Qd3 {No match} d5 33.
Rf5 {No match} Qg1 34. Qg3+ Kc8 35. Rxd5 Rxe4+ 36. Kd3 Re3+ 37. Kxc4 Rxg3 38.
hxg3 Qb1 39. Rd2 Qb2 40. Kb5 Kc7 41. g4 Qc3 42. Rd1 {2nd match} Qxc2 {2nd match
} 43. Rd4

My Analysis of the game.
http://www.timeforchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=27838&page=11
no1marauder - X
1.e2-e4 c7-c5 2.Ng1–f3 d7-d6 3.d2-d4 c5xd4 4.Nf3xd4 Ng8-f6 5.Nb1–c3 a7-a6 6.Bc1–g5 e7-e6 7.f2-f4 Qd8-c7 8.Qd1–f3 b7-b5 9.f4-f5 10...a6xb5 11.Bf1xb5+ Bc8-d7 12.f5xe6 Bd7xb5 13.Nd4xb5 Qc7-c5

14.Bg5xf6 f7xe6 15.Nb5-d4 g7xf6 16.Nd4xe6 Qc5-c4 17.Qf3xf6 Nb8-d7 18.Ne6-c7+ Qc4xc7 19.Qf6xh8 Qc7-c5 20.Qh8xh7 Qc5-e3+

21.Ke1–f1 [0.00 Fritz 8: 21.Ke1–d1 Qe3-d4+ 22.Kd1–c1 Bf8-g7 23.Qh7-h5+ Ke8-d8 24.Qh5-g5+ Kd8-c7 25.Ra1–b1 Ra8xa2 26.Rh1–d1 -0.22/13 ] 21...0–0–0

22.Qh7-h3 Qe3-c5

23.Qh3-d3 [–0.87 Fritz 8: 23.a2-a3 Bf8-g7 24.a3xb4 Rd8-f8+ 25.Kf1–e1 Qc5xc2 26.Ra1–a8+ Kc8-c7 27.Ra8xf8 Qc2xe4+ 28.Ke1–f2 0.00/12 ] 23...Bf8-g7

24.Kf1–e2 Nd7-e5 25.Qd3-b3 Ne5-c4

26.Ra1–f1 [-2.12 Fritz 8: 26.Rh1–f1 Bg7-c3 27.Rf1–f3 Rd8-e8 28.Ra1–d1 Re8xe4+ 29.Ke2-f1 Nc4-e3+ 30.Rf3xe3 Qc5xe3 31.Qb3-g8+ Kc8-c7 32.Qg8-f7+ -1.12/11 ] 26...Rd8-e8

27.Qb3-h3+ Kc8-b8 28.Rf1–f4 Bg7-h6 29.Rh1–f1 Bh6xf4 30.Rf1xf4 Nc4xb2 31.Qh3-b3 Nb2-c4 32.Qb3-d3 d6-d5

33.Rf4-f5 [-4.06 Fritz 8: 33.Qd3-b3 Kb8-c7 34.Qb3-g3 Nc4-d6 35.Ke2-f1 Qc5-c4+ 36.Qg3-d3 Re8xe4 37.Rf4-f7+ Nd6xf7 -2.72/11 ] 33...Qc5-g1

34.Qd3-g3+ Kb8-c8 35.Rf5xd5 Re8xe4+ 36.Ke2-d3 Re4-e3+ 37.Kd3xc4 Re3xg3 38.h2xg3 Qg1–b1 39.Rd5-d2 Qb1–b2 40.Kc4-b5 Kc8-c7 41.g3-g4 Qb2-c3 42.Rd2-d1 Qc3xc2 43.Rd1–d4 b4-b3 44.a2xb3 Qc2xb3+ 45.Kb5-c5 Qb3-c2+ 46.Kc5-d5 Qc2xg2+ 47.Kd5-e5 Qg2-b2 48.Ke5-e4 Kc7-c6 49.Ke4-e3 Qb2-c3+ 50.Ke3-e4 Qc3-c5 51.Ke4-e3 Qc5-e5+ 52.Rd4-e4 Qe5-g3+ 53.Ke3-d4 Kc6-d6 54.Kd4-c4 Qg3-f3 55.Kc4-d4 Qf3-f2+ 56.Kd4-d3 Kd6-d5 57.Re4-a4 Qf2-e1

58.Ra4-d4+ [–10.56 Fritz 8: 58.Ra4-a8 Qe1–d1+ 59.Kd3-c3 Qd1xg4 60.Ra8-a5+ Kd5-c6 61.Ra5-a8 Qg4-g3+ 62.Kc3-b2 Kc6-b5 -4.81/11 ] 58...Kd5-e5

59.Rd4-c4 Qe1–d1+ 60.Kd3-c3 Ke5-d5 61.Rc4-b4 Qd1–c1+ 62.Kc3-b3 Kd5-c5 63.Rb4-a4 Qc1–d1+ 64.Kb3-a3 Kc5-b5 65.Ra4-b4+ Kb5-a5 0–1

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Originally posted by no1marauder
There are good reasons why children under 18 aren't allowed to vote; they generally lack sufficient life experience and maturity to make rational decisions on a regular basis.

Whatever you said about the Game Mods, you also said

"I'm also playing IM on gk, and I'm positive he doesn't cheat"

Thus you are saying the Game Mods ban ...[text shortened]... ome all engine users with a smile.

Your opinion is noted and others can judge its value.
whatever you say. I take your post to mean we'll let it rest, which would be a good thing, as nothing new is being said.
C ya...

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Don't you ever get sick of being such a pathetic fool?
Oh the irony of it...

The holy verses according to St. Russ:

...Post, email or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;...


It seems to me that you and the TOSSERS are forever breaking the TOS.
Yes, for some crimes there's eternal excommunication and for other crimes (of equal magnitude, for it is not stated in the Verses according St. Russ that it is otherwise, and you TOSSERS are VERY literal in your fundamental attitude towards the TOS) there's nothing...

You make me sick.
You have black blood pumping through your corrupted veins and you are the epitamy of everything evil, dark and non-alcoholic.

You, your inquistion, your witchhunt and your sanctimonious whining.

SERENITY PLEASE!!!!

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Oh the irony of it...
finally someone said it...

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Oh the irony of it...

The holy verses according to St. Russ:

...Post, email or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, [b]abusive
, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;...
...[text shortened]...

You, your inquistion, your witchhunt and your sanctimonious whining.

SERENITY PLEASE!!!![/b]
Yeah but this is old hat stuff now,and the game mods made their decisions based on the evidence they had to work with,regardless of our opinions and beliefs, the players are no longer on this site,and as the saying goes if we dont like it we can vote with our feet...as some players have already done. Its just a shame its caused such a divide amongst players i thought were friends.Shav and Rag,you shouldnt let No1 wind you up as he seems to relish in forever proving himself right and everyone else wrong.

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Originally posted by angie88
[b]finally someone said it...[/b]
Finally? I've said it so bloody often I feel like a broken record player!

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Oh the irony of it...

The holy verses according to St. Russ:

...Post, email or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, [b]abusive
, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;...
...[text shortened]...

You, your inquistion, your witchhunt and your sanctimonious whining.

SERENITY PLEASE!!!![/b]
Yeah, we get it Shav; you don't care if people cheat on the site. Well, 90% of the people here do, as do (finally!) the Site Admins. So keep up your blathering about how everybody who doesn't want to be cheated is a Nazi; you're being an a**hole is old news.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Finally? I've said it so bloody often I feel like a broken record player!
I meant in this thread... I just thought his last line was kinda amusing...
btw, you missed out on a great party, shavi 😉

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Yeah, we get it Shav; you don't care if people cheat on the site. Well, 90% of the people here do, as do (finally!) the Site Admins. So keep up your blathering about how everybody who doesn't want to be cheated is a Nazi; you're being an a**hole is old news.
You know, as well as I, that that is not the point at stake here No1.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
You know, as well as I, that [b]that is not the point at stake here No1.[/b]
what's the point here shav, if not that no1 was correct and IM's friends are attacking him for it ?

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Originally posted by frogstomp
what's the point here shav, if not that no1 was correct and IM's friends are attacking him for it ?
That some rules of the TOS can be broken and others cannot (hypocrisy).
The whole witchhunt attitude.

Personally, yes, I think people can cheat if they want. But THAT is not what this is about.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
[b]There are good reasons why children under 18 aren't allowed to vote; they generally lack sufficient life experience and maturity to make rational decisions on a regular basis.
If under 18's were on average half as articulate as Angie, they all should be allowed to vote.

But for the purposes of this argument the moto for this site should be...

"In Mod we trust"

If we don't like Mod's work we are free to leave.

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