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Originally posted by Palynka

Come on, speculating about football is fun and part of the game. Andy Gray certainly has the right to his opinion, and I don't think what he said is THAT far-fetched.[/b]
You're right. It is part of the fun... but Andy Gray doesn't appear to have a sense of humour - hence my clamour for Big Ron, AND Rodney Marsh!

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Originally posted by SALADIN
what u think of this Argintani players situration? I think they will both go in the summer!
Yup, can't see them stayin' especially if Hammers actually manage to relegate (I have a bad feeling 'bout this season) if takeover happens, which I for one hope that doesn't, they probably stay, if West Ham actually wins something they might stay, if for some unearthly reason Big Phil Scolari (latest rumour) decides that London is place to be then they might with a reasonably good season stay for another season.. eh, at least to january 2008.

As a players they've played pretty good - real class players no doubt, it up to rest of the team raise their game.

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Originally posted by pulu2
Yup, can't see them stayin' especially if Hammers actually manage to relegate (I have a bad feeling 'bout this season) if takeover happens, which I for one hope that doesn't, they probably stay, if West Ham actually wins something they might stay, if for some unearthly reason Big Phil Scolari (latest rumour) decides that London is place to be then they might w ...[text shortened]... ayed pretty good - real class players no doubt, it up to rest of the team raise their game.
predew was saying a few odd things lately? anyway lets see what happens..... harewood has been very poor this season and the loss of Aston was so unlucky

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Originally posted by blade68
Before Sundays matches Andy Gray reckoned that if Arsenal and Liverpool lost they'd be out of the reckoning for the title... have you ever heard such twaddle?
Agreed - I'm sick of Sky's wretch-enducing overhype. Andy Chubby Gray sitting there like the fat kid from school having found out he's getting an extra large portion of school dinner, with Richard Keys feeding him ever more pudding.

BBC too is more of a lads discussion down the pub these days than a serious commentary show.

They both need a serious lesson in professional objectivity (but that's just my opinion😉).

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Originally posted by ElleEffSeee
They both need a serious lesson in professional objectivity (but that's just my opinion😉).
to be just like US sport shows then? 🙂

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It's ridiculous though! Andy Gray on saturday - 'Liverpool lose and they are out of the title race'. They lost. They won today and are 6 points off the top, with 99 still to play for - ANDY GRAY IS A T W A T.

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Originally posted by ElleEffSeee
Agreed - I'm sick of Sky's wretch-enducing overhype. Andy Chubby Gray sitting there like the fat kid from school having found out he's getting an extra large portion of school dinner, with Richard Keys feeding him ever more pudding.

BBC too is more of a lads discussion down the pub these days than a serious commentary show.

They both need a serious lesson in professional objectivity (but that's just my opinion😉).
Now come on LFC? Whilst I'm not the biggest Andy Gray fan in the world, me thinks some of the insults you've slung his way here may possibly have come to light 'cos he was/is an Evertonian - am I wrong?

Personally, I think Jeff Stelling is the best thing on Sky Sports... top link man! Whereas Richard Keys is surely the hairiest man on tele?

I don't mind the BBC's coverage these days (better than in Chinny's era).. I do like Lineker, but can't stand Hansen - he slates managers for team selections and tactics but he's never done it himself! ... and when he was a player he was a 'bottler' - never to be found when the chips were down, he was very fortunate to play in such an excellent side.

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Originally posted by ElleEffSeee
It's ridiculous though! Andy Gray on saturday - 'Liverpool lose and they are out of the title race'. They lost. They won today and are 6 points off the top, with 99 still to play for - ANDY GRAY IS A T W A T.
Aaahh - a little more ex-Toffee bashing I see!
However, I agree entirely!

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Originally posted by blade68
Aaahh - a little more ex-Toffee bashing I see!
However, I agree entirely!
andy gray is a total and utter twa*t!
honestly it's official in merseyside

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Originally posted by scoop122
andy gray is a total and utter twa*t!
honestly it's official in merseyside
Yeah... in the red half!

BTW, what a goal that was from Alonso.

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Originally posted by ElleEffSeee
ANDY GRAY IS A T W A T.
couldn't agree more......

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Originally posted by SALADIN
predew was saying a few odd things lately? anyway lets see what happens..... harewood has been very poor this season and the loss of Aston was so unlucky
I'm afraid that the guy's is goner. IMO he is good manager and all but the team needs a shakeup or sumthin' and since you can't change the whole team..

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Why are you or anybody talking about football on a chess site? I am a Yank in the UK. No One LIKE US AND WE DON'T care!

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The comments about Andy Gray made me smile.

I don't watch Sky myself, but I know that Andy Gray was slammed on Everton forums for his analysis of the derby match, belittling Everton's wonderful performance.

Once an Everton hero, but certainly not a favourite among Evertonians today.

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So, by how many goals will Porto win over Arsenal next Tuesday?