Originally posted by huckleberryhoundI was about to PM you. Obviously a discussion about swearing is very hard to conduct without refering to th eswaering, but you have started to use it as an excuse to continue the swearing that was removed in teh first polace. ie. replacing 'f***' with 'feck' in terms such as 'feck off' or 'fecking hurry up'.
I see you've deleted some of my argument, why?
Your complaint seems to focus on two things:
1) 'feck' is not a swear word. I have already explained, that depends on context and the reflexivness of the verb. In the contexts that have been removed (ie. 'feck off'😉 feck is clearly a replacement for 'f***' so is obfuscated swearing and moderatable. If you'd been discussing whether 'feck off' were acceptable or not this would have been necessary and allowed, but posts saying the likes of 'fecking great' without cause other than to swear is not necessary, is swearing, and has been removed.
2)not all f-somethings have been removed from all posts. As I have already explained, there aren't enough mods with enough hours to remove all posts that perhaps should be. Any post with swearing is liable to be removed. This does not mean that every post with swearing will be removed. In my eyes the hope is that knowing that their post may be removed if they swear will deter a poster from swearing in the first place.
Originally posted by belgianfreakI never used it as an excuse, i showed examples of words, that i don't use, that are used regularly on this site.
I was about to PM you. Obviously a discussion about swearing is very hard to conduct without refering to th eswaering, but you have started to use it as an excuse to continue the swearing that was removed in teh first polace. ie. replacing 'f***' with 'feck' in terms such as 'feck off' or 'fecking hurry up'.
Your complaint seems to focus on two thin ...[text shortened]... removed if they swear will deter a poster from swearing in the first place.
I also gave you several examples of obfuscating of the f word, but as you said.
"I don't make the rules; obfuscation of a swear word is not allowed any more than swearing is."
But i gave several obfuscations that certainly are.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundread point 2. I've made it several times now. Not every case of swearing or obfuscated swearing will be removed, but all cases are liable to be removed. All I can see is that you are complaining that your post was removed while other similar postsweren't. As I've said before, is this not like complaining that you got a speeding ticket while ohter doing the same or faster speeds got away with it? Not everyone who speeds gets caught every time. But knowing that you might get caught hopefully makes some people slow down. If you do get caught hopefully you won't speed next time. If you do then don't be surprised if you get caught again.
I never used it as an excuse, i showed examples of words, that i don't use, that are used regularly on this site.
I also gave you several examples of obfuscating of the f word, but as you said.
"I don't make the rules; obfuscation of a swear word is not allowed any more than swearing is."
But i gave several obfuscations that certainly are.
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Originally posted by belgianfreakBut my whole point is that i changed the word, so it wasn't swearing.
read point 2. I've made it several times now. Not every case of swearing or obfuscated swearing will be removed, but all cases are liable to be removed. All I can see is that you are complaining that your post was removed while other similar postsweren't. As I've said before, is this not like complaining that you got a speeding ticket while ohter doing ...[text shortened]... fully you won't speed next time. If you do then don't be surprised if you get caught again.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundread point 1. 'feck' in teh context you used it ('feck off'😉 has not been explained by anyone to be anythng but a replacement for 'f*** off', and therefore swearing. Unless you have another translation I stanmd by this point.
But my whole point is that i changed the word, so it wasn't swearing.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundagain, point 2. Not every case will be spotted and not every case wil be removed. All are liable to be removed if spotted. Did you alert it? Doing so vastly increases the chance of a mod spotting it quickly.
Ok, at the top of this page starman says "for fricks sake"
double standards mate.
Now that you've highlighted it it's gone. But I somehow doubt that this'll make you happy as you complaint seems to not be that obfuscated swearing exists but that one case of your obfuscated swearing was removed while others remain. I really can't explain this better than I already have done in points 1 & 2 combined.
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Originally posted by huckleberryhoundIf you start out with a swear word and change it to make it sound less like a swear word, that's exactly what "obfuscating" means, isn't it? I agree it's a grey area, for example I am not sure whether "what the heck" would be accepted or not (it could be an obfuscation of the f-word, or it could be an obfuscation of "hell", which may or may not be considered swearing in this expression), but if you start out with a swear word, I guess it's a good idea just to leave it out.
But my whole point is that i changed the word, so it wasn't swearing.
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Originally posted by belgianfreakShould this post really be here
read point 1. 'feck' in teh context you used it ('feck off'😉 has not been explained by anyone to be anythng but a replacement for 'f*** off', and therefore swearing. Unless you have another translation I stanmd by this point.
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Edit - Moderator alert wonder how long it stays?
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Originally posted by Nordlyswe've moved this to PM, its probably for the best.
If you start out with a swear word and change it to make it sound less like a swear word, that's exactly what "obfuscating" means, isn't it? I agree it's a grey area, for example I am not sure "what the heck" would be accepted or not, but if you start out with a swear word, I guess it's a good idea just to leave it out.
Less agrivation, and no chance of being misunderstood.
I will never understand the rules of this forum as long as i live. . .probably just aswell
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Originally posted by adramforallFollowing belgianfreak's reasoning it should because the words are necessary for the discussion, and discussing what's allowed or not should be allowed. Following some other moderators' reasoning, it should not be allowed to discuss what's allowed or not because it's not possible to do so without using swear words. Guess which reasoning makes more sense to me.
Should this post really be here
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