This is for rhbill

Originally posted by RBHILL
Jesus did say never to swear but like I said you have no BALLS to enter a Christian Church and give it a try, I was like you I didn't want to but I gave it a try.

Oh swear in Church? I have many times. Not only was I brought up as a Christian, studied Christianity since. But recently I was in a wedding and I swore lots of times in the church.

But my point is proven by you, Jesus never said dont swear so you had to refer to the church. Hence they are not the same. Understand ?

Originally posted by RBHILL
Jesus did say never to swear but like I said you have no BALLS to enter a Christian Church and give it a try, I was like you I didn't want to but I gave it a try.

Originally posted by Grayeyesofsorrow
Oh swear in Church? I have many times. Not only was I brought up as a Christian, studied Christianity since. But recently I was in a wedding and I swore lots of times in the church.

But my point is proven by you, Jesus never said dont swear so you had to refer to the church. Hence they are not the same. Understand ?

Originally posted by RBHILL
You must have gone to a Catholic Church.

I swore all the time when I went to the Catholic Church,lusted after all the preppy girls to.

But then I accepted Christ and go to a Baptist Church and do not lust after girls anymore or swear in church.

Originally posted by Grayeyesofsorrow
*yawns* Do you read the crap you write.

Jesus didnt say thou shall not swear. Im not even sure if the church says it.

Jesus basicly said love everyone, help everyone. He certainly didnt say waste tons and tons of money on grand churchs and pointless posts in them, money that could save the lives of starving children......did he ?

Originally posted by RBHILL
Matthew 5:34
But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne;

Originally posted by RBHILL
You must have gone to a Catholic Church.

I swore all the time when I went to the Catholic Church,lusted after all the preppy girls to.

But then I accepted Christ and go to a Baptist Church and do not lust after girls anymore or swear in church.

Originally posted by pcaspian
If we claim to be a Christian, and someone else claims to be a Christian, can we allow them to spread lies about the faith, or live in a manner which makes unbelievers think badly of Christians ?

Originally posted by Nyxie
I seem to be unable to express my desire to have you stop messaging me. I have asked politely now 4 times. Let me make this plain: stop messaging me, stop sending me pm's, stop talking to me, stop looking at me, stop thinking about me, stop asking me questions, stop calling me rude, stop, just stop, would you please for the love of all, just stop, stop stop.. Do you get the hint now? stop. Stop stop, leave me alone!!

Thank you
Nyxie

Originally posted by shavixmir
Holy sweet Jesus...

You have my strongest sympathies...it's one of my worst nightmares...being stalked by a Christian...

I wake up at night sweating with visions of that door I was unable to slam closed and that black shiney Christian boot half-way inside my hall.

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGG

Originally posted by Nyxie
Shavixmir, you're posts have always intriqued me. I never could quite decide what to make of you. Your off color humour, and your fascination with minut detail about certain um... subjects of a personal nature have left me wondering.

I want you to know that I have decided here and now with this post that I think you're cool. Thank you for that laugh, you have once again found a way to bring humour to those that need it most.


Nyxie

Originally posted by nemesio
Originally posted by pcaspian

Interesting; I've concluded that you don't know your Bible. When I quote it you accuse me of misreading it, but when you quote it, you claim it is 'The Truth.'


Misreading ? Actually I accused you of selective reading. In other words, you quote what you feel proves your point, yet then evade even the most elementary Biblical texts.

I'm sorry. When it said, 'Do not judge,' I guess I took it literally. You want to interpret the Bible (but won't allow for others' interpretations).#


Patience is a virtue, sometimes it is a virtue I lack. I will elaborate 'judging a BROTHER IN CHRIST in detailed posts below. I believe I have addressed the issue, but rather than actually address my points, your arguments seem to evade valid posts and nitpick of the spelling of 'ect/etc'.


Well, if you are going to admonish him, you should do so armed with
the Gospel, not with insults and slander. Point out his theological infelicities and debate the nature of the 'unchanging Truth.' Don't condemn him out of hand, without arguments or support (but wait, you just did that with me...).

Are you even a Christian ? I have no idea where you stand in your faith only that you seem to believe there is no requirement for belief in Jesus as a personal saviour. If that is the case, you're not actually a Christian. As for insults and slander, falsely accusing a fellow Christian to be lustfull is wrong. How you can consider my rebuke of Kirksey slanderous I have absolutely no idea. Please point out exactly the nature of my rebuke.


Well, if poking fun at his grammar as a basis for questioning his intelligence is legitimate, I guess poking fun at your poor grammar in light of your making fun of his poor grammar made my comment rather funny.

Poking fun ? If you are to pretend to be intellectually superior to someone else which is what no1 did atleast do not make spelling errors. As I really couldn't give a dog's bollox what you think of my intelligence, or lack thereof, or constantly pretend to be intellectually superior to anyone else, it is not exactly a case of the POT calling the KETTLE black. But then for the next year you can really harp on about homosexual marriages and gramatical errors if that's what makes you happy. I suggest moving on with life, go outside, take a walk around the block.



You give yourself far too much credit, as if I stay up at night worked up about an event I don't even remember.

Clearly not. Or has it now moved on to my 'spelling' thread with No1 from 2 weeks ago ?


By the way, the 'chip off your shoulder' reference was a bit of ironic genius! You really bring down the house with such choice selection of metaphor, especially in light of your continual prodding of Kirksey.

What exactly are you missing ? Which part of my detailed explanation as to WHY I publically pick on Kirk did you not understand ? Any person calling him/herself a Christian is obliged to point of erroneous scripture when preached. Everytime I read anything Kirksey preaches that directly opposes the scriptures, it is my responsibility to point that out. If you fail to understand that, ask Kirk, ask Huntingbear or any other Christian you can think of. I don't spend all my time on the forums Nemo, I have a life outside RHP. Do some reading yourself.


Your motives are both Scripturally unsound and unChristian. They are
worthy of examination, which I have done above. You may not like
the examination, but, as you said, Christians aren't allowed to just
pick and choose which Scripture they like (sort of like you did with
my references to St Paul, actually).


Ok, below are a list of scriptures discussing judging others. As you've failed horribly to even quote any of those (irrespective of your wide reading of the Bible), I will post them. Have a read, try understand, but keep in mind this is the last time I do your homework for you...


Nemesio[/b]

FOR NEMESIO.. please ignore if you don't care to know why we are still suppose to judge fellow Christians..

Leviticus 19:15, "Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment...but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour."
Deuteronomy 1:16, "...Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him."

The Lord Jesus Christ commanded, "Judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24). He told a man, "Thou hast rightly judged" (Luke 7:43). To others, our Lord asked, "Why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?" (Luke 12:57).

Our brother Paul wrote, "I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say" (1 Corinthians 10:15). Again, Paul declared, "He that is spiritual judgeth all things" (1Corinthians 2:15). It is our positive duty to judge.

Our brother Paul admonished believers, "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." (Romans 16:17-18). This apostolic command could not be obeyed were it not right to judge. Our Father wants us to know His Word and then test all teachers and teaching by it. Notice also that it is the false teachers who make the "divisions," and not those who protest against their false teaching. And these deceivers are not serving Christ, as they profess, "but their own belly," or their own "bread and butter" as we would put it. We are to "mark them" and "avoid them."

"Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."(1 Corinthians 5:13).

"Come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." (2 Corinthians 6:17; read also verses 14-18)

"From such withdraw thyself."(1 Timothy 6:5).

"From such turn away." (2 Timothy 3:5).

"Withdraw yourselves." (2 Thessalonians 3:6)

"Have no company with him." (2 Thessalonians 3:14-15).
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness." (Ephesians 5:11)

"Avoid them. (Romans 16:17).

Luke 17:3, "Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him."

curious... what does 'brother' mean Nemo ? A brother in Christ ?

Matthew 18:15-17, "Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican."

Romans 16:17-18, "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple."

1 Timothy 6:3-5, "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself."

2 Timothy 3:2-5, "For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."

1 Corinthians 5:9-13, "I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."


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You have all these scriptures to contend with, yet you choose to fall on the old 'judge not lest ye be judged' ? verse ?

If you want to discuss it, join a Christian forum, else go to a Church and ask a pastor to explain it to you.

cheers

Originally posted by Grayeyesofsorrow
Bollocks

Thats not Jesus. Is this concept really hard for you to grasp?

You talk about Jesus but then quote someone else.