Originally posted by pcaspianYour duty to judge Kirk?
Not really. I would pick on Kirk more than any others on RHP as he claims to be a 'brother in Christ'. I address problems I have with other Christians on RHP in private. You can ask RB, Ivan, HuntingBear. As you may know from Scripture, it is indeed my duty to judge Kirk.
In addition to the passage I quoted earlier, which you obviously felt
did not apply to you, I will call to your attention the following passage,
which is the other's analogue:
St Luke 7:37-48
Stop judging and you will not be judged. Stop condemning and
you will not be condemned. Forgive and you will be forgiven. Give
and gifts will be given to you; a good measure, packed together,
shaken down, and overflowing, will be poured into your lap. For
the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you.
Perhaps you think the words of Jesus don't apply to you; I can't be
certain.
Consider St Paul:
Romans 2:1-8
Therefore, you are without excuse, every one of you who passes
judgment. For by the standard by which you judge another you
condemn yourself, since you, the judge, do the very same things.
We know that the judgment of God on those who do such things is
true. Do you suppose, then, you who judge those who engage in
such things and yet to tem yourself, that you will escape the judgment
of God? Or do you hold his priceless kindness, forbearance, and
patience in low esteem, unaware tha the kindness of God would lead
you to repentence? By your stubbornness and impenitent heart, you
are stroing up wrath for yourself for the day of wrath and revelation
of the judt judgment of God, who will repay everyone according to his
works: eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and imortality
through perserverance in good works, but wrath and furty to those
who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness.
I am glad that you know your Christian 'duty.'
Nemesio
Originally posted by RagnorakWho ever calls on the name of Jesus to forgive them for there sins and relise on Jesus alone and not Mary is a Christian.
Dunno how to prove that one is christian or not. You haven't answered my question as to whether catholics are considered christians in your world or not. I'm assuming that they are.
Pope Paul 3rd was the first person to use jewish ghettos in Rome in the 16th century becase he believed that jews were spreading the plague. Hitler merely expanded on that idea. Is following the pope non christian suddenly?
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Originally posted by RBHILLYou are clearly missing the point
All Christians are Saints in the eyes of God. Jesus saved people before Peter was a Christian. The man on the Cross with Jesus He save one of them and the other stayed lost.
JESUS WAS A JEW
THE PEOPLE HE SAVED HE DIDNT SAVE BECAUSE THEY WERE CHRISTIANS
JESUS NEVER PREACHED CHRISTIANITY
JESUS HIMSELF HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY
Find me just one historically correct reference to Jesus saying anything like "I will save all Christians" They just dont exist because for the last time Jesus had jack sh*t to do with setting up the Christian church.
Originally posted by RBHILLAlso it is pointless to throw around bible references, since they were writen by men, and not the son of God or God himself. So anything that is writen in the bible has as much value as something id say.
Who ever calls on the name of Jesus to forgive them for there sins and relise on Jesus alone and not Mary is a Christian.
Originally posted by RBHILLBecause women are the root of all evil, and the reason we are born with original sin right?
Who ever calls on the name of Jesus to forgive them for there sins and relise on Jesus alone and not Mary is a Christian.
Btw: is Hitler, or isn't he a christian? And are you saying that because catholics believe in Mary that they aren't christians? If Mary didn't exist, how did jesus come to be, according to 'christians'?
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Originally posted by GrayeyesofsorrowI'm currently in the process of writing the gospel according to Ragnorak. Unfortunately, the only piece of wisdom I have come up with is:
Also it is pointless to throw around bible references, since they were writen by men, and not the son of God or God himself. So anything that is writen in the bible has as much value as something id say.
If doth doith useth some scratcheth and sniffeth marketing material, never put thine finger to doth nose and declareth 'smells like poo to me'.
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Originally posted by Ragnorak'Catholics' do not 'believe' in Mary, or at least in whatever sense such
And are you saying that because catholics believe in Mary that they aren't christians? If Mary didn't exist, how did jesus come to be, according to 'christians'?
a phrase might imply. All 'literal' Christians are obligated to believe
in Mary's existence -- she's mentioned in the Bible numerous times
as Jesus' mother.
Roman Catholics hold Mary in high regard, given that she was the vessel
by which Jesus came to earth. She was thought from early times to
have been without sin, largely because sin was passed from parent
to child and Jesus needed to be without sin (hence the Immaculate
Conception dogma, which applies, not to Jesus but to Mary). Her
'Dormition' or 'Assumption' (depending on whether you are an Eastern
or Western Catholic) is extra-Biblical, but very old (4th century, I think)
and alledgedly stems from Apostolic teaching.
She is not Co-Redemptrix. 'Catholics' don't 'pray' to her. She is
regarded as first amongst the saints, the perfect believer and follower
of Christ, one of the few that wouldn't desert Him at the foot of the
Cross. According to 'Catholics,' she, like all the saints in heaven,
prays for us and asks for intercession on our behalf.
In any event, the Biblical and extra-Biblical stories about her serve
as effective teaching tools about faith, fidelity, obedience, reverence,
and love.
Any Christian who denies Mary's importance in the Biblical narrative
has 'Catholic-ophobia.'
Nemesio
Originally posted by nemesio
Your duty to judge Kirk?
I am glad that you know your Christian 'duty.'
Nemesio
I am struggling to understand you Nemesio. You say you are well read ect ect, but this is sunday school 101. Are you getting this stuff from web sites, or do you actually know them from reading ?
You really should know this even by reading your NIV. What makes Kirk so special that makes it my duty as a Christian to judge his actions ? Find the answer yourself. Do you know your Bible ?
Originally posted by Grayeyesofsorrowhttp://www.bible.com/answers/afacts.html
You are clearly missing the point
JESUS WAS A JEW
THE PEOPLE HE SAVED HE DIDNT SAVE BECAUSE THEY WERE CHRISTIANS
JESUS NEVER PREACHED CHRISTIANITY
JESUS HIMSELF HAD [b]NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY
Find me just one historically correct reference to Jesus saying anything like "I will save all Christians" They just dont exist because for the last time Jesus had jack sh*t to do with setting up the Christian church.
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1 Peter 4:16
However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.
http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?SearchType=AND&language=english&version=NIV&searchpage=0&search=Christian&x=17&y=4
Originally posted by Grayeyesofsorrowid say. You sould like you have a cold.
Also it is pointless to throw around bible references, since they were writen by men, and not the son of God or God himself. So anything that is writen in the bible has as much value as something id say.
The Bible is Godbreathed
2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is Godbreathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
Originally posted by RagnorakIf she did not exist God would have found another Woman.
Because women are the root of all evil, and the reason we are born with original sin right?
Btw: is Hitler, or isn't he a christian? And are you saying that because catholics believe in Mary that they aren't christians? If Mary didn't exist, how did jesus come to be, according to 'christians'?
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If you read the Bible it was though Adam not though Eve.
Originally posted by nemesioI had posted this before but here
'Catholics' do not 'believe' in Mary, or at least in whatever sense such
a phrase might imply. All 'literal' Christians are obligated to believe
in Mary's existence -- she's mentioned in the Bible numerous times
as Jesus' mother.
Roman Catholics hold Mary in high regard, given that she was the vessel
by which Jesus came to earth. She was ...[text shortened]... n who denies Mary's importance in the Biblical narrative
has 'Catholic-ophobia.'
Nemesio
Q: What is the Apostles' Creed?
A: The Apostles' Creed, though not written by the apostles, is the oldest creed of the Christian church and is the basis for others that followed. Its most used form is:
I believe in God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth: And in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord, Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, Born of the Virgin Mary, Suffered under Pontius Pilate, Was crucified, dead, and buried: He descended into hell; The third day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, And sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty; From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. I believe in the Holy Ghost; The Holy catholic Church, the Communion of Saints; The Forgiveness of sins; The Resurrection of the body, And the Life everlasting. Amen.
In its oldest form, the Apostles' Creed goes back to at least 140 A.D. Many of the early church leaders summed up their beliefs as they had an opportunity to stand for their faith—see, for example, 1 Timothy 6:12. These statements developed into a more standard form to express one's confession of faith at the time of baptism. It is not Scripture, but it is a simple list of the great doctrines of the faith.
The word "catholic" means "relating to the church universal" and was the word used in the original version of the Creed. It does not mean the Roman Catholic Church, but the church, the body of Christ, as a universal fellowship. The phrase, "He descended into hell," was not part of the creed in its earliest form.
http://billygraham.org/LFA_Article.asp?ArticleID=103
Originally posted by NyxieHe likes your bum (on avatar anyways) Unlike most of us, he is reluctant to admit it. *meh*
I seem to be unable to express my desire to have you stop messaging me. I have asked politely now 4 times. Let me make this plain: stop messaging me, stop sending me pm's, stop talking to me, stop looking at me, stop thinking about me, stop asking me questions, stop calling me rude, stop, just stop, would you please for the love of all, just stop, stop stop.. Do you get the hint now? stop. Stop stop, leave me alone!!
Thank you
Nyxie
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Originally posted by RBHILLYou'll notice that page just like your arguements are blowing smoke up people ar*es
http://www.bible.com/answers/afacts.html
1 Peter 4:16
However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.
http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?SearchType=AND&language=english&version=NIV&searchpage=0&search=Christian&x=17&y=4
A good example
5. Who wrote the Bible?
The Bible was written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit by over 40 different authors from all walks of life: shepherds, farmers, tent-makers, physicians, fishermen, priests, philosophers and kings. Despite these differences in occupation and the span of years it took to write it, the Bible is an extremely cohesive and unified book.
Let me see if I understand this (and so you know im writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit) A group of people living today have the balls and stupidness to try and say that those people were contacted by a "Holy Spirit"
Again im going to ask you
Find one account of Jesus saying he supports Christianity
Jesus is the one thing that you cant argue against, he existed, there are roman records for him. Now isnt it strange that the main man of your religio (And also the one that there are records for) never said anything about it, that can be proved. Yet you are getting fiction writing crap to try and twist it. Its ooooooo ssssooooooooooo simple RBHILL Jesus never said he supported Christianity or started it off, you can quote as many other people as you want. But its pointless because your God and his representive on earth didnt say any of it!!
Btw RHBILL if you read that web page and believe the none factual parts like sh*t about a holy ghosts making people write crap it then your a stupid sheep.