Originally posted by ChavvieJust between me and you it may be possible that Madam admires you for standing up for yourself.This may be the reason for a long game?
Hello, I refer you to the game i'm currently playing against madam Game 1393532 which is 3 day/7 day match.
I have had this game won long ago with a bishop and 2 pawns against her(?) king. Rather than do the decent thing and resign she has eroded her time bank down to half a day, now she has taken to moving once every three days just before the ti ...[text shortened]... ur time to keep the game running.
Madam, you are a chump.
Thanks for you time people.
Originally posted by Moldy CrowObviously its not all about me as in that reply I was referring to Belgianfreak's game.
There is no such thing as "stalling". Your opponent is within the agreed upon time limit per move , if he exceeds the time limit you can claim the skull. If you wanted a faster game then you shouldn't have accepted this game's TO/TB conditions. Opponents playing on past the point where YOU think they should have resigned will always be a part of the game.
Grow up. This isn't all about you.
Thanks for your 2 pence worth but its not really required. If the position is lost after you've analysed it, it won't suddenly become winable if you leave it for any more time. Why is this point so hard for you people to understand
Originally posted by moweutGenius, lets turn it into a national thing. I'm assuming you're an Aussie, in which case stick the rugby and the cricket up your wrong'un 😀
Just goes to show how wrong one can be. I had pinned the cutoff point for wrist slashing chess at around 1700, those above being susceptible and those below being sociable. however, I had not factored in the pom wing factor before.
If you're a kiwi try not to bottle the next world cup.
As for the chess, what are you talking about sociable? If there is chatting from the start i'll assume the person wants to talk, if not as in this case then I won't.
When the game was still up for grabs Madam was moving regularly, when it became unwinnable, the moves dried up. In my book that is pointless as well as being intentional. If you don't agree then throw another shrimp on the barbie.
Originally posted by ChavvieDon't comment on games in progress. Even if it causes you stress. It might get you banned. Thus you would lose and your opponents would win. Even if you think all should all resign. Don't fall into a trap. If someone can make you comment on anyones game you could lose more than just a game. I bet you are turning all red faced now. Chess is like war. End of discussion.
Obviously its not all about me as in that reply I was referring to Belgianfreak's game.
Thanks for your 2 pence worth but its not really required. If the position is lost after you've analysed it, it won't suddenly become winable if you leave it for any more time. Why is this point so hard for you people to understand
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Originally posted by mrmistGood god, the game that genius showed of me with just a king was a resigned game, sort of the exact opposite to the the game I referred to.
I'm at a loss as to why this presents such an issue to you. If you subscribe, as you do, you can have any number of games active - what does it matter if another one sits in your queue?
Consider that -
1) If it's a lost position as you state, you will eventually win the game anyway.
2) Since you've already "won", it doesn't prevent you from opening with individual games.
Meanwhile, if you don't like it, play shorter limits.
When the game was still a contest, Madam's moves were regular, proving the point that has been made on here that people move quicker when they have a chance of winning.
I was stating my opinion that I felt the game was a waste of time, which it is. I'm not going to complain to the mods about it, I just wanted to explain my opinion of the situation.
So please climb down of your high horse and digest these points.
Originally posted by Chavviebut I don't think you have answered my point. If I understand correctly, your stance is that anyone who slows down when they are in trouble is stalling. What I am trying to illustrate is that analysing what to do next in a winning position when your plan is still valid takes less time than trying to come up with a new plan when your in trouble.
Obviously its not all about me as in that reply I was referring to Belgianfreak's game.
Thanks for your 2 pence worth but its not really required. If the position is lost after you've analysed it, it won't suddenly become winable if you leave it for any more time. Why is this point so hard for you people to understand
I usually get to look at a board for 2 minutes at a time, which is easily enough to move in a winning possition, but not if I've blundered or am getting hammered. The problem is compounded by the fact that I don't find that adding 2 separated 2 minutes analyses together equals 4 minutes of analysis as I have to go back over a lot of what I went through the time before, so the slow down is more pronounced - either until 2+2+2+2 = 5, or until I get time to do a proper analysis in one go.
I've moved in teh game I mentioned - please don't comment on it as it's still inprogress, but it'll be interesting to see how it goes now I have taken a prolonged time to think about it.
nb. the same disclaimer as before - I'm not saying all people eho slow down when losing are not stalling, rather that not all who do are.
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There's no doubting that you have a point bg, I do the same, if I am behind but I don't believe the game lost yet, then I will carry on. Not only will I carry on but I will take longer to analyse the situation to try and find a way out or lay some sort of trap. If you're behind it probably means that you have more to think about defensively too, if you don't want to go even further behind.
Chavvie also has a good point though, there are players who drag out the game unneccessarily and not for the reason stated above, it is purely for the fact that they don't like losing. A losing position against a reasonable player might as well be lost, especially if there are only a few pieces left on the board so stop being a sore loser and resign. Yes, they are allowed to do this according to the set time limits, is it sporting behaviour? No! As has already been mentioned, this sort of action can then hold up tournaments too so bite the bullet and click the little 'resign' box.
Originally posted by belgianfreakOk I understand your point, and that you have to come up with a Plan B so to speak, but the delay you have described seems to be a matter of minutes and I don't know your situation as to why you only get to look at a board for 2 mins at a time.
but I don't think you have answered my point. If I understand correctly, your stance is that anyone who slows down when they are in trouble is stalling. What I am trying to illustrate is that analysing what to do next in a winning position when your plan is still valid takes less time than trying to come up with a new plan when your in trouble.
I us ...[text shortened]... g all people eho slow down when losing are not stalling, rather that not all who do are.
I was wrong about the Madam game it is a 7/7 game which means at this stage she is moving once every 7 DAYS, in a hopeless position. There is only 0.6 days left in the time bank which means she is purposely waiting a week then moving her king then waiting another week. Clearly this game should be resigned and was the point of my original post. Do you see my point?
You can't justifiably complain about someone playing within the rules. Or do you propose a rule to force a player to resign when it is not possible to win. [even though it could be drawn due to a mistake by the opponent]
In tournaments there is a need for a solution maybe but in normal [friendly?] games not.
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Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveIts a clan game, which I don't class as a friendly.
You can't justifiably complain about someone playing within the rules. Or do you propose a rule to force a player to resign when it is not possible to win. [even though it could be drawn due to a mistake by the opponent]
In tournaments there is a need for a solution maybe but in normal [friendly?] games not.
I'm not saying the person should be made to resign obviously, I am just saying that its futile to continue not to mention the fact she's being blatantly awkward.
Originally posted by ChavvieBelgianfreak said earlier that he only gets 2 minute glimpses every few days, so a few more minutes for the analysis may mean several days or weeks in terms of moving.
Ok I understand your point, and that you have to come up with a Plan B so to speak, but the delay you have described seems to be a matter of minutes and I don't know your situation as to why you only get to look at a board for 2 mins at a time.
Originally posted by NordlysSo are you saying that is feasibly whats happening with Madam, oh wait she's only got a king left.
Belgianfreak said earlier that he only gets 2 minute glimpses every few days, so a few more minutes for the analysis may mean several days or weeks in terms of moving.
She could take all year and there will still be a maximum of 8 moves each time. 😕