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Time wasters - Madam

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
I think the math still works well reagardless of if you start new games... but on the other hand... if you don't ever win another game... it will go down.

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Let's take an imaginary player who always has eight active games, who has a 50% chance of winning a game, and who uses one month for his good games and two for the bad ones (yes, I know this is an extremely unlikely scenario, but the principles are the same with different numbers, I just simplify). He starts out with eight games. After a month, he gets four wins, and starts four new games, while the bad games still go on. After two months, he finishes the four bad games, and he also wins two of the new games. So he now has six wins and four losses, and he starts six new games. After another month, he wins three of the new games, and he loses the two games he started in the second month, so he has nine wins and six losses. Etc... If he'd use the same amount of time for every game, he'd have the same amount of wins and losses.

Of course, as I said, other factors will come in - if his rating gets higher, his chances to win against players with a similar rating will get lower, which changes everything again. And of course if he continues to play players with the same rating as in the beginning, the wins won't bring him much points anymore.

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Originally posted by Moldy Crow
If you don't like things "dragging on", play games with shorter TO/TB .
Hehe,that's what I do:I play really fast time controls and avoid slow ones like leper.
I just quit my clans because I was getting a bunch of slow games where my opponents started dragging as soon as they have a disadvantage.

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Originally posted by Ravello
Hehe,that's what I do:I play really fast time controls and avoid slow ones like leper.
I just quit my clans because I was getting a bunch of slow games where my opponents started dragging as soon as they have a disadvantage.
I'm in the same boat as BF. If my plan is going well (ie: some might say winning), then I can move quickly.

If I can't find a plan or if my opponent prevents my plan from bearing fruit, (some might say I have a disadvantage) my play slows. Not for any cynical reason, purely because I'm not happy that I have found the best move.

If somebody pressures me to move, then you can be sure I won't be happy.

D

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
...If I can't find a plan or if my opponent prevents my plan from bearing fruit, (some might say I have a disadvantage) my play slows...
Is that why you took over two weeks to make your latest move against me? Sweet!

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
I'm in the same boat as BF. If my plan is going well (ie: some might say winning), then I can move quickly.

If I can't find a plan or if my opponent prevents my plan from bearing fruit, (some might say I have a disadvantage) my play slows. Not for any cynical reason, purely because I'm not happy that I have found the best move.
Yes, same here. In addition, I may play on for a while in a clearly lost position because it gives me more endgame experience, which I need sorely. This may sometimes be difficult to understand for players who have a lot more experience, and who take it for granted that anyone with a rating similar to theirs has that experience, too. It might also happen that I don't see that the position is lost when this is very clear for my opponent, so again my opponent may have difficulties understanding why I don't resign.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
Yes, same here. In addition, I may play on for a while in a clearly lost position because it gives me more endgame experience, which I need sorely. This may sometimes be difficult to understand for players who have a lot more experience, and who take it for granted that anyone with a rating similar to theirs has that experience, too. It might also happen tha ...[text shortened]... for my opponent, so again my opponent may have difficulties understanding why I don't resign.
Loser.

😉

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Originally posted by dottewell
Loser.

😉
Addict.

😛

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Originally posted by darvlay
Is that why you took over two weeks to make your latest move against me? Sweet!
Oh my god,are you saying he was dragging the game ??
How you dare to say that !

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Originally posted by Ravello
Oh my god,are you saying he was dragging the game ??
How you dare to say that !
Yeah, no dragging accusations in the public forums! Report your suspicions to a drag moderator!

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Originally posted by Chavvie
Ha ha, Someone can check public games, aren't you a clever boy.

The end game on that one was completed in a day, and it appears that I resigned. The game I am referring to has 1 move every 3 days. There is a big difference.
Ha ha! Someone can start stupid, whining threads, be proved to be a hypocritical moron and then look EVEN more stupid by making petty and inane attempts at defending himself, aren't YOU are a clever boy....?

No, you're not! You're just a stereotypical social retard that acts all aloof and thinks he's smart, haunting around the forums pretending he's better than everyone because he's not '"sad enough to post unless he's at work due to his oh-so amazingly busy life".

Save yourself the bother and go crawl back under the analy retentive rock you slithered out from because no one here gives a toss about your hypocritcal opinions, and every single reply you'll get will be an arguement that makes you look EVEN more idiotic than you actually are!

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I must ask Russ if he will create a drag moderation team,I'm fed up with all those sandbaggers,they give a bad name to the site!
Every site has a policy against game dragging,how can be possible that here nothing is being done??
I'm reconsidering my subscription renewal if nothing will be done!

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Originally posted by Ravello
I must ask Russ if he will create a drag moderation team,I'm fed up with all those sandbaggers,they give a bad name to the site!
Every site has a policy against game dragging,how can be possible that here nothing is being done??
I'm reconsidering my subscription renewal if nothing will be done!
Phlabby's in drag most of the time he's moderating, doesn't that count for something?

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Originally posted by Ravello
I must ask Russ if he will create a drag moderation team,I'm fed up with all those sandbaggers,they give a bad name to the site!
Every site has a policy against game dragging,how can be possible that here nothing is being done??
I'm reconsidering my subscription renewal if nothing will be done!
I'm at a loss as to why this presents such an issue to you. If you subscribe, as you do, you can have any number of games active - what does it matter if another one sits in your queue?

Consider that -

1) If it's a lost position as you state, you will eventually win the game anyway.

2) Since you've already "won", it doesn't prevent you from opening a new game because it's not like you'll have to think about this one that you've already won, is it?

3) Plenty of people have stuffed up "won" games by being overconfident and ending up drawing. That's why it is sometimes worth hanging on.

The thread starter here doesn't have a leg to stand on. He complains about this person moving the king around and then is shown to have done exactly that before. The time-frame is irrelevant because both parties agree to the time controls when they start the game. Madam could have chosen to take 3 days over every single move as this is a correspondence site, not live chess.

The only situation where this could be any sort of issue is when it's part of a tournament. Even then it is not an issue between the two players, or a fault of any one player, it's just slowing down the tourney. That could be fixed by moving the tournies on once they are mathematically complete, and has nothing to do with individual games.

Meanwhile, if you don't like it, play shorter limits.

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You could have not wasted all these repetitive words,my post was ironic.

If that thing present "such an issue" for me, it's none of your business and yes,I play shorter time controls,with 1 day timeout and 0 timebank it's hard for my opponents to drag a game.

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Originally posted by Ravello
You could have not wasted all these repetitive words,my post was ironic.

If that thing present "such an issue" for me, it's none of your business and yes,I play shorter time controls,with 1 day timeout and 0 timebank it's hard for my opponents to drag a game.
Your post maybe was or was not, the original posters wasn't. My reply stands for him too.