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what is a good starting move?

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Originally posted by NicotineMan
1.c4 is a pretty good flank opening but if you are starting out chess I highly recommend 1.e4 for tactical reasons. 1.d4 is a pretty safe one to start a chess game. It is so safe that next move you can play c4 almost without no risk.

But probably 1.e4 is the strongest beginning move on the board if you might agree. I rarely play 1.c4 since it is not ...[text shortened]... This is what I believe still all the moves are pretty good exepth the ones I mentioned earllier.
Never let beginners play 1.e4 . They'll bring their queen out immediately!

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Originally posted by schakuhr
Never let beginners play 1.e4 . They'll bring their queen out immediately!
True and sad I must agree. I never bring my queen early unless she absolutely has to do something really important. I still recommend 1.e4 best for beginnners or 1.d4 (depending on temperement).

So for beginners this is best possible general guide I could come up with;

First place one, if possible two pawns in the center. Then move the knights from their starting squares (f3,f6,c3,c6 are golden squares for them). Now develop both bishops (it will appear as your opponent moves, like try to pin the opposing knights or control center or just move them from the backrank). Then, CASTLE. (castle often, castle early), move your queen to connect both rooks and place them on the central files.

ok? Do not forget all this. But take your opponents' moves into account too. Like if they bring their queen early in the game *DO NOT FOLLOW THIS ADVICE MECHANICALLY* try to punish her by giving her hell. Try to attack her and make sure she is not happy in her pre-mature home.

In most openings, queens do their best at their original squares (d1,d8). But then try to move them from the back rank.(to b3, b6, d2,d7,e7,e2 etc where she can influnece the game most)

Mr. Nic *feeling for the beginners as he has been there too*

PS: I hope they know what is castling and en passant and all that nonsense. If they don't, they can learn easily I am sure.

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Originally posted by Sicilian Smaug
Not that those openings arnt advanced in there own way but i mean advanced as in openings like the reti which shouldnt really be attempted by beginners.
Perhaps not the Reti, but a related opening that is excellent for beginners who have confidence in their Ruy Lopez play is the King's Indian Attack. An added bonus to this opening is that the opening moves can be played in almost any order.

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Originally posted by joshbgosh10592
I have been losing a lost of games because of a crapy starting move. what do you think is a good starting move?
It's not your opening move, but your general opening play. I've just taken a quick look at your games. In only one out of ten have you castled. You try to bring rooks out early and at least twice you've lost the rook to a bishop. You move the same piece too many times in the opening. You put your knight on the a or h file. You push a or h pawns in order to get your rooks out. You appear to be nervous to bring out your central pawns, perhaps because it exposes your King but that's what castling's about. In short, you show little understanding of the basics of the game.
Get yourself a book or two on basic chess theory from your local library. And then get some understanding of the Ruy Lopez (1. e4) - I really think this is the first and most fundamental of all openings. Only from there on should you expand your opening repertoire.

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Originally posted by buffalobill
It's not your opening move, but your general opening play. I've just taken a quick look at your games. In only one out of ten have you castled. You try to bring rooks out early and at least twice you've lost the rook to a bishop. You move the same piece too many times in the opening. You put your knight on the a or h file. You push a or h pawns in ord ...[text shortened]... most fundamental of all openings. Only from there on should you expand your opening repertoire.
Think he should try the Italian game first, thats even more fundamental then the Ruy Lopez (The Spanish Game) which is played by experienced players whereas the Italian isn't.... for obvious reasons.........zzzzzzzzz

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also.............shouldn't this be in the chess forum.leaving more space for the mindless drivel that the general forum encapsulates 🙂

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Originally posted by Vladamir no1
also.............shouldn't this be in the chess forum.leaving more space for the mindless drivel that the general forum encapsulates 🙂
hullo, vlad, where've you been?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
hullo, vlad, where've you been?
hey

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Originally posted by Vladamir no1
Think he should try the Italian game first, thats even more fundamental then the Ruy Lopez (The Spanish Game) which is played by experienced players whereas the Italian isn't.... for obvious reasons.........zzzzzzzzz
Fair enough, I prefer the 3. .... Bb5 move because it's more forcing, gives you options and poses questions. But my point remains - stick with 1. e4, understand it and the reasons behind it before venturing into others.

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Originally posted by joshbgosh10592
I have been losing a lost of games because of a crapy starting move. what do you think is a good starting move?
Asking this in the Chess forum would be a good start.

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Originally posted by buffalobill
But my point remains - stick with 1. e5
That will certainly take your opponent by surprise. 😉

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Originally posted by Nordlys
That will certainly take your opponent by surprise. 😉
Who knows, the shock may result in instant resignation.

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Originally posted by buffalobill
Fair enough, I prefer the 3. .... Bb5 move because it's more forcing, gives you options and poses questions. But my point remains - stick with 1. e4, understand it and the reasons behind it before venturing into others.
i agree

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