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  1. Subscribersonhouse
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    21 Jul '13 13:56
    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/20/world/meast/uae-norway-rape-controversy/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    Get raped, go to jail and the rapist goes free.
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    21 Jul '13 14:05
    sadly enough this is not only the case in the UAE but has been heard of in Nigeria, Saudi-Arabia,...
  3. SubscriberSuzianne
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    21 Jul '13 14:121 edit
    Originally posted by Ponderable
    sadly enough this is not only the case in the UAE but has been heard of in Nigeria, Saudi-Arabia,...
    It seems standard in countries where there are separate standards for men and women in sexual matters, where women are seen as the 'enticers' who draw men into sin. Why do you think women must all be covered head to toe, while men can often go half-naked?

    I think most western women 'get it' that their ideas of independence or gender equality don't quite agree with the cultural norms in these Islamic states especially.
  4. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    21 Jul '13 14:13
    What makes them regard women as 2nd class citizens?
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    21 Jul '13 14:181 edit
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    What makes them regard women as 2nd class citizens?
    Sharia law, based on the Koran.
  6. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    21 Jul '13 14:31
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Sharia law, based on the Koran.
    Yes, that much I know... but why?
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    21 Jul '13 14:42
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Yes, that much I know... but why?
    /shrug

    I haven't read the Koran, so I'm not intimately knowledgeable of Sharia law.

    I do understand that it is Islam's version of the Mosaic laws as set forth in the Torah, only apparently much more restrictive towards females. Sharia law also sets forth other rules, such as how and when to pray, etc.

    You'd have to do some research to find out precisely why. It's altogether possible that the best answer you'll get is "Because God said so!"
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    21 Jul '13 16:24
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    /shrug

    I haven't read the Koran, so I'm not intimately knowledgeable of Sharia law.

    I do understand that it is Islam's version of the Mosaic laws as set forth in the Torah, only apparently much more restrictive towards females. Sharia law also sets forth other rules, such as how and when to pray, etc.

    You'd have to do some research to find out pre ...[text shortened]... why. It's altogether possible that the best answer you'll get is "Because God said so!"
    Well, as that girl that the Taliban tried to kill said,

    These whacko Muslims are afraid of education.
    They would rather that their people remained in the dark ages.
    Especially their women.

    It's a pity that they don't teach their people about the difference between
    Jesus and Mohammed.

    Jesus was never married and he did no wrong and he preached about
    peace and love and cooperation between peoples as well as not committing
    any crime and loving and serving God.

    Mohammed on the other hand was a nut who preached hatred and death
    and he was married several times. He was also a paedophile as one of his
    wives was only six years old apparently.

    I suspect if these Muslims knew more about their revered prophet
    they might have a change of heart.
  9. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    21 Jul '13 16:271 edit
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    /shrug

    I haven't read the Koran, so I'm not intimately knowledgeable of Sharia law.

    I do understand that it is Islam's version of the Mosaic laws as set forth in the Torah, only apparently much more restrictive towards females. Sharia law also sets forth other rules, such as how and when to pray, etc.

    You'd have to do some research to find out pre ...[text shortened]... why. It's altogether possible that the best answer you'll get is "Because God said so!"
    In your opinion, does the virtual absence of Christianity play a significant role in the atrocities the sonhouse link portrays?

    "Dubai (CNN) -- Norwegian interior designer Marte Deborah Dalelv has spoken out after being handed a 16-month prison sentence in Dubai -- after she went to police to report she had been raped by a colleague.

    The 24-year-old was convicted and sentenced on charges of having unlawful sex, making a false statement and illegal consumption of alcohol.

    Her story is dominating the headlines in Norway, and has raised serious questions over the way women who allege sexual assault are treated in the United Arab Emirates.

    Dalelv, who had been working at an interior design firm in Qatar since September 2011, told CNN on Saturday how a work trip to Dubai in March with three colleagues turned into a nightmare." (continues)
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    21 Jul '13 22:40
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/20/world/meast/uae-norway-rape-controversy/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    Get raped, go to jail and the rapist goes free.
    The U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics states that 91% of rape victims are female and 9% are male, and 99% of rapists are male.[85] One of six U.S. women has experienced an attempted or completed rape.[86] More than a quarter of college age women report having experienced a rape or rape attempt since age 14.[87] Some types of rape are excluded from official reports altogether (the FBI's definition, for example, used to exclude all rapes except forcible rapes of females), because a significant number of rapes go unreported even when they are included as reportable rapes, and also because a significant number of rapes reported to the police do not advance to prosecution.[88] As well as the large number of rapes that go unreported, only 25% of reported rapes result in arrest. Many rape kits are not tested.[89] Only 16% of rapes and sexual assaults are reported to the police (Rape in America: A Report to the Nation. 1992 and United Nations Populations Fund, 2000a).[90][91] Factoring in unreported rapes, about 5% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail.[92]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
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    21 Jul '13 22:46
    Most STRIPPERS AND PORN STARS were abused as kids...why is this??

    all the stats and studies say that the vast majority of female porn stars and strippers were abused, either sexually or otherwise, as children, why is this?
    what does this have to do with their decision to do such things when they get older?

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080703035946AAYRQb3
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    21 Jul '13 23:24
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]In your opinion, does the virtual absence of Christianity play a significant role in the atrocities the sonhouse link portrays?...
    I like you, and don't want to think you're stupid. But you're stupid. Makes me sad. Christianity is retarded. Doesn't hold up to examination. Sorry. I like your spirit. Wish it would grow.
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    21 Jul '13 23:54
    5 percent is pretty good though aye. You need at least a W to go to the moon.
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    21 Jul '13 23:58
    Originally posted by apathist
    I like you, and don't want to think you're stupid. But you're stupid. Makes me sad. Christianity is retarded. Doesn't hold up to examination. Sorry. I like your spirit. Wish it would grow.
    take it to spirituality spanklberger and you'll get roasted for sure, proffering mere opinion in the guise of fact is just what they eat down there.
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