One thing is clear, if the problem is to be solved, then we, the human inhabitants of the planet, will have to solve it. It's childish and naive to expect supernatural help when said help has not been forthcoming through the ages on the disastrous problems of world famine and disease. Nor was it forthcoming when Christian Europe was devastated by the black plague. We now return to regular programming. Thank-you.
Originally posted by Iron MonkeyTons of human suffering are self induced. From time to time,
One thing is clear, if the problem is to be solved, then we, the human inhabitants of the planet, will have to solve it. It's childish and naive to expect supernatural help when said help has not been forthcoming through the ages on the disastrous problems of world famine and disease. Nor was it forthcoming when Christian Europe was devastated by the black plague. We now return to regular programming. Thank-you.
He deems it necessary to prune a few diseased trees
or to uproot whole landscapes of nonproductive vineyards...
otherwise the human race would eventually self destruct.
Intellectual confusion and false conclusions are inevitable,
if and whenever, our viewpoint is flawed (relativistic rather
than pegged to absolute principles) and our perspective limited
(horizontal rather than vertical). Look down from 100 miles up...
Originally posted by ivan2908They better leave my car alone.
We are destrying forests, depilating our planet. We forgot about oxygen that trees product together with planctons ? We are depilating oxygen from the gentle skin of the Earth called atmosphere!! It is 3. 30 A. M. now but problems like this can't be delayed ??! 😲
That's all I'm saying. Leave the car alone!
Originally posted by Grampy Bobbytell you what, bobby: why don't you fly over to Africa and tell the starving children there that they have to die because God sees them as 'diseased trees' and their country as a 'nonproductive vineyard'. i'm no christian, but i suspect christ would be appalled at what you have to say about human suffering. and no, these kids did not inflict ehir suffering upon themselves, they are innocents, if anybody is.
Tons of human suffering are self induced. From time to time,
He deems it necessary to prune a few diseased trees
or to uproot whole landscapes of nonproductive vineyards...
otherwise the human race would eventually self destruct.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWell done on not accepting any responsibility whatsoever for your actions.
Ivan, the Creator of the universe is quite capable of sustaining
all of the spheres in accordance with His design and purpose.
It is the very epitomy of unbridled arrogance to even imagine
that His omniscience did not anticipate the invetiable pollution
of human occupation of the earth, make intricate (van allen belt
and other) provision ...[text shortened]... ne concern you and I
really have is the permanent destination/address of our eternal souls.
So we can kill every plant, animal and fish and it'll be ok, so long as we have secured a nice cushty seat alongside yer man upstairs?
Well done on just joining the long list of nut jobs on this site.
D
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby...viewed in the correct context. the wrong context (i.e. the belief in a supernatural agency that stops us from wiping ourselves out) just renders the waters inpenetrably muddy.
Clear understanding results only when a thing (issue, premise, idea, concept, person, etc) is viewed in context.
ok, now you reply with one of your 'wisdom-shines-out-my-a$$' obscurantisms.
Originally posted by Iron MonkeyYour bleeding heart naivete comes as a total surprise.
tell you what, bobby: why don't you fly over to Africa and tell the starving children there that they have to die because God sees them as 'diseased trees' and their country as a 'nonproductive vineyard'. i'm no christian, but i suspect christ would be appalled at what you have to say about human suffering. and no, these kids did not inflict ehir suffering upon themselves, they are innocents, if anybody is.
The cumulative consequences of individual and collective
wrong decisions of parents and grandparents and nations
have been visited upon the 'innocent' children of subsequent
generations since time immemorial. Even secular historians
recognize the divine principle of the 4th generation curse.
Originally posted by RagnorakYou have a right to your opinion. Everybody respects that.
Well done on not accepting any responsibility whatsoever for your actions.
So we can kill every plant, animal and fish and it'll be ok, so long as we have secured a nice cushty seat alongside yer man upstairs?
Well done on just joining the long list of nut jobs on this site.
D
What smacks of intellectual dishonesty and emotional
disorientation is your apparent disinclination to allow any
contrary opinions equal right... if they collide with your own.
Originally posted by Iron MonkeyContext is context... either accurate or inaccurate but never
...viewed in the correct context. the wrong context (i.e. the belief in a supernatural agency that stops us from wiping ourselves out) just renders the waters inpenetrably muddy.
ok, now you reply with one of your 'wisdom-shines-out-my-a$$' obscurantisms.
'right' or 'wrong'. Why? Because they're subjective overlays.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYes, damn these cumulative consequences
Your bleeding heart naivete comes as a total surprise.
The cumulative consequences of individual and collective
wrong decisions of parents and grandparents and nations
have been visited upon the 'innocent' children of subsequent
generations since time immemorial. Even secular historians
recognize the divine principle of the 4th generation curse.
of individuals who have pushed back
the boundaries of science and helped millions through
the manufacture of e.g. targeted drugs, which
help fight the diseases that have plagued mankind
since the dawn of time
Who is to blame for these disease?
Not us.
Thank God.
p.s. - quit double spacing, it is neither clever nor necessary.
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Originally posted by FeastboyYour words are disjointed and incoherrent ornaments
Yes, damn these cumulative consequences
of individuals who have pushed back
the boundaries of science and helped millions through
the manufacture of e.g. targeted drugs, which
help fight the diseases that have plagued mankind
since the dawn of time
Who is to blame for these disease?
Not us.
Thank God.
p.s. - quit double spacing, it is neither clever nor necessary.
on a paragraph which lacks content. Least you got your
oar in. Spacing is out of deference to my weak eyes.
P.S. Presumptuous of you to seize Iron's prerogative of reply.
Originally posted by ivan2908It is easy to talk and say something must be done...much harder to actually do something.
We are destrying forests, depilating our planet. We forgot about oxygen that trees product together with planctons ? We are depilating oxygen from the gentle skin of the Earth called atmosphere!! It is 3. 30 A. M. now but problems like this can't be delayed ??! 😲
For me the true heros are the doers, not the talkers.