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    In many games when I've played the Sicilian (maybe even 1/3 or so) my opponent plays 2.Bc4
    Is this often encountered by others & also how would the more experienced 1...c5 players counter it?

    After
    1.e4...c5
    2.Bc4
    I normally play 2...Nf6 forcing 3.Nc3 then follow with 3...e6 opening lines & threatening to build a strong center

    Any comments?
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    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    In many games when I've played the Sicilian (maybe even 1/3 or so) my opponent plays 2.Bc4
    Is this often encountered by others & also how would the more experienced 1...c5 players counter it?

    After
    1.e4...c5
    2.Bc4
    I normally play 2...Nf6 forcing 3.Nc3 then follow with 3...e6 opening lines & threatening to build a strong center
    [fen]rnbqkb1r/pp1p1ppp/4pn2/2p5/2B1P3/2N5/PPPP1PPP/R1BQK1NR w KQkq - 0 4[/fen]
    Any comments?
    Yeah, it's gay. 😛

    I like the e6 idea, I generally play that too and get in an early d5.

    What's your plan after 4.e5?
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    After, say 4.Nf3...d5 my short-term plan is to usually fianchetto with g6 & Bg7 then castle in behind, then expand on the QS but that is rather vague, as is my plan - hence the OP!
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    Why do you want to play g6 after playing e6?

    BV
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    2.Bc4 is the response in about 60% of my games playing the Sicilian 🙄
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    I see this crap all the time. The best way to play is to play for ..d5 of course, making Bc4 look stupid, but you have to watch out for e5, since if he gets it in, it's hard to play ..d5. I generally play ..Nc6 first, and sometimes ..d6, then ..Be7, ..0-0, and then play for ..d5 once everything is under control. But sometimes you can just get it in without having to play all the preparatory moves, and that is the funniest thing ever, because you know the guy on the other side of the board feels pretty dumb. 😀
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    If they are novice enough to play 2. Bc4, I always assume they are going to try to fool's mate me, so I play 2. Nc6 to try to lure their queen out.
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    its true that Bc4 is looks a liitle like a novice move. however, i would like you to refute it for me. theres essentialy nothing wrong with it, except that it develops a B before a K (rules like these were meant to be broken). i suppose you guys probably laugh at 1.e4 e5 2. Bc4! too.
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    It's obviously a decent enough move to deserve a thread on how to defeat it. Like someone already said, if it's such a bad and "gay" move you should be happy to see your opponent play it.
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    instead of e6 here you have a much better two move tactical seqeunce that will get you the bishop pair but nothing else. i would like to call e6 here a very "gay" move. but like i said before nothing wrong woth Bc4 either at move 2 or 3
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    sicillian, none of us here play at a master level. therefore it is safe to say that Bc4 is a descent move and none of us will lose becasue we played it. we are far more likley to lose becasue of a tactical oversight, not becasue a Bishop move on move 2! i know from playing lots of smith-morra gambits that the B usually ends up on c4 before black plays e6. the B enjoys a nice life either here or at b3 with lots of latent sac ideas on e6.

    and yes e6 is a very slow move here. if you missed the simple tactic ..Nxe4, you better brush up on "The juniors guide to tactics"
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