Novice reply to Sicilian

Originally posted by likeforest
sicillian, none of us here play at a master level. therefore it is safe to say that Bc4 is a descent move and none of us will lose becasue we played it. we are far more likley to lose becasue of a tactical oversight, not becasue a Bishop move on move 2! i know from playing lots of smith-morra gambits that the B usually ends up on c4 before black plays ...[text shortened]... if you missed the simple tactic ..Nxe4, you better brush up on "The juniors guide to tactics"

You are right in saying that playing 2. Bishop c4 is not a huge blunder. However, there are far better moves that give you a better chance at winning. In an opening, you can play at a master level for the first few book moves. So why not make a solid move when it is available and obvious?

Originally posted by likeforest
instead of e6 here you have a much better two move tactical seqeunce that will get you the bishop pair but nothing else. i would like to call e6 here a very "gay" move. but like i said before nothing wrong woth Bc4 either at move 2 or 3

It is asking for trouble in the center & wasting time for white because the bishop will be kicked out. Unless black is equally stupid & allows the (presumed) attack on f7 to go un-noticed!

I have a game in progress against a weaker player where I have played a very different line than any discussed - perhaps a dubious response & will post in here (if I win😉)

I'm glad I'm not the only one who faces this regularly. Even 1400+ players are using it but strangely enough (ha!) it doesn't appear in any of my books.
Does it even have a name?

AMAZING TACTIC!!! what on earth are you talking about. i called this a simple tactic, and if you still have not found it you better throw those opening books out the window, and get back to the basics.

this is killing me!! the simple tactic exists from the postion posted if back plays something besides e6. i will post answer, but seriously guys!!, this is simple stuff

wait a minute I already posted answer, and you still dont get it!!!!!

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Nxe4 5.Nxe4 d5

sicillian i could wipe you off the planet using Bc4 against your GM perpared opening, becasue you would fail to see a simple tactic in middlegame . im usually on Playchess if you would like a game

I've never lost to 2. Bc4

I think after 3.Bc4 (which *ahem* differs from the whole topic of the OP) most people would definately play 3...e6 then white looks dumb.

Tell me how white doesn't lose a tempo or central control from here:

i can show both you and sicillian in a game if you would like