Originally posted by prosoccerPretty sound, little known next to main lines, a good opening to use on and off but wouldnt make it your main line. More of an OTB opening than corry too.
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 Ng4
Any thoughts? Looks pretty sharp for black to me. I am contemplating playing it to supplement indians.
Originally posted by BedlamI'd say it's far from sound. After 4. Bf4 black scores horribly (32% ). Useful for blitz, perhaps occasionally in classical but never in correspondence unless you like losing.
Pretty sound, little known next to main lines, a good opening to use on and off but wouldnt make it your main line. More of an OTB opening than corry too.
Originally posted by XanthosNZId say its sound for OTB club level. A lot of openings are unsound at GM or Super GM level. Fajarowicz varition might be pushing its club level soundness, at least at the higher levels (in light of 4.a3), but I wouldnt consider myself with a won game as white if I was facing the normal lines.
I'd say it's far from sound. After 4. Bf4 black scores horribly (32% ). Useful for blitz, perhaps occasionally in classical but never in correspondence unless you like losing.
Originally posted by XanthosNZThe trouble with databases they are full of Master games which arent always relevent to club level, still 32% (win rate for black?) doesnt seem too bad.
I'd say it's far from sound. After 4. Bf4 black scores horribly (32% ). Useful for blitz, perhaps occasionally in classical but never in correspondence unless you like losing.
Originally posted by XanthosNZI know the numbers, but I use it as my main line against d4 in OTB tourneys (got a very funny look from a Class A) and have started using it here. The best thing about it from my perspective is that it pretty much forces an immediate open game which d4 players are generally trying to avoid, at least early on. And like any opening if you're used to it you have a feel for the middle game positions that arise from it. White almost always returns the pawn and has some spatial advantage but Black can generally obtain a perfectly reasonable position. No, I won't beat Topalov with it, but I still like it.
I'd say it's far from sound. After 4. Bf4 black scores horribly (32% ). Useful for blitz, perhaps occasionally in classical but never in correspondence unless you like losing.
The Budapest is a fun opening to play, especially against lower-rated players. Even against your peers, there are plenty of opportunities to "wing it" and take them out of their book. It promises unbalanced positions, which are much easier for your opponents to go astray in which is the reason why I’ve primarily been playing the Chigorin Defense with Black. Like the Budapest, the Chigorin is not considered completely sound either, but I’ve had satisfying results with it. When I get tired of playing the Mighty Chigorin, I intend on taking up the Budapest for the same reason. The opening you play depends on your temperament. If you want to win with Black, you will have to take some risks.
Originally posted by Bedlam32% is black's score not win rate. All draws would be 50%.
The trouble with databases they are full of Master games which arent always relevent to club level, still 32% (win rate for black?) doesnt seem too bad.
As for soundness, an opening isn't sound at a particular level it's sound in general. Playable is not the same as sound.
Originally posted by XanthosNZAhh the truth of the position, yes I will admit that the Budapest is probably a bit unsound if you look at it that way.
32% is black's score not win rate. All draws would be 50%.
As for soundness, an opening isn't sound at a particular level it's sound in general. Playable is not the same as sound.