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Originally posted by FleabittenI thought trolling was when you followed somebody's posts and said crap things just for the sake of it. Surely this is opposite?
I feel let down. So far as trolling goes, I can only give the OP a 4 out of 10 for this effort. He's usually more entertaining than this.
I'm here tonight to speak out about whether chess is a port. Of course chess isn't a port! A port is filled with water. Lots and lots of water, all over the place. Except for some water bottles next to the boards, there's hardly any water in chess! And a port also has lots of boats - big boats, small boats, yachts, you name it! When have you ever seen a big boat in a chess tournament hall? Never, I tell you! And one more thing...
[ Other voice, interrupting ] Uh, excuse me.
Yes?
Other voice: I'm sorry. The editorial was on whether chess is a sport. Sport. Not port.
Oh, I'm sorry... That's very different... Never mind.
Emily Litella regards,
MR
Once again, people, let's turn to our friend, MR. OXFORD:
Mr. Oxford, defines chess as: "A board GAME for two players, the object of which is to put the opponent’s king under a direct attack, leading to checkmate."
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/chess
Coincidentally, baseball is also defined as a game but can be called a sport because of the PHYSICALITY. Not all Games fall into the realm of SPORTS...unless, of course, there is PHYSICAL EXERTION. Mental exertion does NOT qualify.
Refer to the original definition REQUIRING physical exertion, which is defined as: Physical.... "Relating to the body as opposed to the mind." And exertion:"Apply or bring to bear (a force, influence, or quality."
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/physical
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/exert
This is where you all are getting confused. When A is true and B is true DOES NOT mean that AB is true. Sure there is an exertion in chess, a MENTAL exertion. Now, sure your arm is lifted several inches, moved several inches, a wooden piece weighing one ounce is lifted and moved several inches, but there is no exertion in this. Not even a 100 year old person would exert themselves in such a manner. Convince me that you exert yourself when BLINKING your eyes and then we'll debate.
Also, while I have Mr. Oxford handy.....Troll is defined as "Fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat." Applied to the internet it translates as someone who posts inflammatory material JUST for the sake of posting inflammatory material to get others to BITE." As you can all tell, I DO NOT fit the description. The funny thing is that YOU ALL fit that description. True, my posts tackle issues that are NOT what you normally find here like, "what's your favorite opening?" I stick to CHESS. I stay ON TOPIC. I research. I debate. I cite sources. I never verbally attack. I feel there is a need for some GROWN-UP, scholarly debate here. I feel like I'm stuck in some watered down version of a second rate Disney movie whenever I come here.
As for NORDLYS saying that chess is recognized by the IOC. HA. You have to get up pretty early to pull the wool over my eyes. ALL ME TO SET YOU STRAIGHT. THe chess federation (NOT THE STATUS OF CHESS AS AN OLYMPIC SPORT) is recognized ONLY insofar as that it "must apply the Olympic Movement Anti-Doping Code and conduct effective out-of-competition tests in accordance with the established rules." I could start a federation of BIRD WATCHING and get it recognized on the IF list.
Now here is the TRUTH that NORDLYS didnt want you to see.
http://www.olympic.org/uk/sports/index_uk.asp
These are the SPORTS that are "The current Olympic Games programme includes 33 sports and nearly 400 events. There are also past Olympic sports and sports recognised by the Olympic Movement."
See the difference? NO CHESS. RECOGNIZED SPORTS BY THE IOC!!!! Not recognized federations.
You may think I get some perverse pleasure by proving you all wrong and slapping you upside the head with the TRUTH. Nay, I do not. Remember, I'm here for FACTS. I'm here to Expose the LIARS, when it comes to chess. I'm here to defend the SANCTITY of the greatest GAME on the planet.
I have you all figured out. I REFUSE to allow LIES to be posted IN MY THREAD. You may try, but you......will......fail.
Originally posted by cheater1
Once again, people, let's turn to our friend, MR. OXFORD:
Now, sure your arm is lifted several inches, moved several inches, a wooden piece weighing one ounce is lifted and moved several inches, but there is no exertion in this. Not even a 100 year old person would exert themselves in such a manner. Convince me that you exert yourself when BLINKING your eyes and then we'll debate.
What if I had MS?
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Originally posted by cheater1
{regarding a troll} As you can all tell, I DO NOT fit the description.
LOL
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Originally posted by cheater1
True, my posts tackle issues that are NOT what you normally find here...
EPIC FAIL In 3....2....1.....
Originally posted by redhotlawn in page two of this thread....
BTW, there have been about 3-4 discussions of this in the past. The most recent was 4 months ago.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=100147
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=105062
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=101183
furthermore:
Regarding Women and chess:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=77459
Regarding Photographic Memory:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=28106
pwned?
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Originally posted by Cheater1
I never verbally attack. I feel there is a need for some GROWN-UP, scholarly debate here. I feel like I'm stuck in some watered down version of a second rate Disney movie whenever I come here.
a second rate Disney movie....that's sure GROWN-UP and not VERBALLY ATTACKING....dang you suck at making points...
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Originally posted by Cheater1
Remember, I'm here for FACTS
well... all you have posted is poorly worded opinions...
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Originally posted by Cheater1
I'm here to Expose the LIARS, when it comes to chess.
Didn't you cheat in a OTB tournament....that seems to be a lie to say the least[/b]
I'm here to defend the SANCTITY of the greatest GAME on the planet.
as far as SANCTITY is concerned... I'm pretty sure you raped that concept along time ago...
I think a good definition of sports is: Any game in which the emphasis is placed on execution of physical actions.
So this would include things like bowling, and racing which may not take much athleticism but do require the player to make precise physical movements in order to win.
Chess on the other hand, you can be constantly shaking as you make each move, and even knock over some pieces while you do it, but the only real test is mental. The same goes for poker which is why it shouldn't be called a sport.
Originally posted by MilkyJoeTrolling is usually when you make a topic knowing that almost everyone on the board will strongly disagree with you, just so that you can get a lot of responses.
I thought trolling was when you followed somebody's posts and said crap things just for the sake of it. Surely this is opposite?
Have a look at Dennis Monokroussos blog. There is an interesting article about chess and sport:
http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/posts/1115594307.shtml
I have to agree with him (Monokroussos) but I still love the game and this is all it matters.
I don't care if chess would be played at the next Summer Olympics or is classified as a sport because it doesn't effect me at all.
I play chess because I love the game!!!!