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  1. 30 Nov '12 17:53
    What is the feeling on a player who deliberately loses on timeout to reduce his handicap. Is it poor sportmanship or an acceptable tactic.
  2. Subscriber thaughbaer
    Duckfinder General
    30 Nov '12 17:59
    If it's done to gain entry to lower banded tournaments then it's poor sportsmanship.
  3. Standard member vivify
    rain
    30 Nov '12 18:09 / 3 edits
    It's poor sportsmanship. Just yesterday, someone at chess.com let 17 consecutive minutes expire for the timeout loss, when I was one move away from checkmate. There was an automated message saying he/she "may have violated our fair play policy", and that they'd look into it or something, but nothing seems to have been done about it.

    If anyone here plays at chess.com, don't play Hawkwinds. He/she is a sore loser.
  4. Subscriber venda
    Dave
    30 Nov '12 20:50
    Originally posted by danger dave
    What is the feeling on a player who deliberately loses on timeout to reduce his handicap. Is it poor sportmanship or an acceptable tactic.
    There's been lots of discussion on this topic in the other forums.
    There's quite a few players on here who lose deliberately for one reason or another by timeout or resigning(usually clan related).
    They're commonly known as sandbaggers.
  5. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    01 Dec '12 02:56
    Originally posted by venda
    There's been lots of discussion on this topic in the other forums.
    There's quite a few players on here who lose deliberately for one reason or another by timeout or resigning(usually clan related).
    They're commonly known as sandbaggers.
    Maybe it is also known as psychology. 😏
  6. 01 Dec '12 03:15
  7. 01 Dec '12 09:51 / 4 edits
    Originally posted by thaughbaer
    If it's done to gain entry to lower banded tournaments then it's poor sportsmanship.
    Hang on a minute. Some time back I suggested that not resigning in certain positions and for certain reasons was unsporting.

    I also suggested that clicking skulls automatically was poor form and even cited RHPs own encouragement to use them sensitively.

    In both cases I was told by numerous posters that anything within the rules is acceptable. I disagreed with this, but the same comment was made repeatedly.

    So I hope I won't see any of those posters here arguing that losing to enter a lower banded tournament is unsporting, unless there is a rule which says you are not allowed to lose deliberately.

    I will be checking.

    P.S. thaughbaer is in the clear, by the way

    🙂
  8. Standard member mikelom
    Ajarn
    01 Dec '12 11:02
    Originally posted by danger dave
    What is the feeling on a player who deliberately loses on timeout to reduce his handicap. Is it poor sportmanship or an acceptable tactic.
    How do you know he's not ill, and has not been able to move? How do you know he has DELIBERATLEY lost on timeout to reduce his handicap? If he's handicapped, he's certainly not in mode to play in super mode in all of his games. Grow up!

    Another piece of negative thought. Love your pyschological expertise RJ - YOU should be the next Jung.

    Or should that be Dung? Cow dung?

    -m. 😏
  9. 02 Dec '12 09:51
    You only have to look at the graph of his results, suddenly from being a good handicap player match after match is lost by timeout or unjustified resignations, until hey presto he wins match after match to regain his high handicap, and then the whole process is repeated.
    Just look at 'jais'.
  10. Subscriber Kewpie
    since 1-Feb-07
    02 Dec '12 12:38
    Originally posted by danger dave
    You only have to look at the graph of his results, suddenly from being a good handicap player match after match is lost by timeout or unjustified resignations, until hey presto he wins match after match to regain his high handicap, and then the whole process is repeated.
    Just look at 'jais'.
    User 178166
    I see nothing remarkable about this guy's graph, there are many similar on RHP. He obviously plays with short time controls, which means he has a high number of both wins and losses by timeout, but that's what I'd expect if you play 1/0 and don't visit the site every day of your life. His current rating doesn't move all that far away from his average rating.
  11. 02 Dec '12 13:23
    Originally posted by Kewpie
    User 178166
    I see nothing remarkable about this guy's graph, there are many similar on RHP. He obviously plays with short time controls, which means he has a high number of both wins and losses by timeout, but that's what I'd expect if you play 1/0 and don't visit the site every day of your life. His current rating doesn't move all that far away from his average rating.
    whyat about this user User 414762
  12. 02 Dec '12 14:46
    Ok, don't look at the graph but at the individual games and then draw your conclusion.
    If you choose to play 1 day per move and no timebank it is surely because you are free to visit the site at least every day.
  13. 02 Dec '12 14:46
    Another fine example of what I am saying.
  14. 02 Dec '12 17:09 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    whyat about this user User 414762
    User 414762[/b]

    Losses by timeout : 1362 (55.50)

    😲
  15. 02 Dec '12 17:25
    Originally posted by vivify
    It's poor sportsmanship. Just yesterday, someone at chess.com let 17 consecutive minutes expire for the timeout loss, when I was one move away from checkmate. There was an automated message saying he/she "may have violated our fair play policy", and that they'd look into it or something, but nothing seems to have been done about it.

    If anyone here plays at chess.com, don't play Hawkwinds. He/she is a sore loser.
    Obviously they don't do anything about it unless someone does it a lot. You only know he did it once.