Did White Use Computer Engine

Originally posted by hedonist
This is the kind of thinking that makes people suspicious.

It is well known that the difference between a club player and a master increases in fast games. Simply because the master has an automatic feel for what is the right or wrong move. Pattern recognition is the key. It doesn't matter that I have one minute or one week to make a move, I'm never gon ...[text shortened]... still far exceeds the level of the average game by two club players at regular time controls.

Part of it is practice makes perfect. You should have heard of that. 😏

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Because some people cheat, simple as that. When someone with an 1800 OTB rating gets higher engine match up rates than a Soviet GM winning the ICCF World Championship people might get a little suspicious.

Check the young teenagers matchup rates, I am curious.

P.S. He beat me in a blitz game already, but I think I might be able to
hold my own at longer time controls. I just beat a 1900+ USCF rated
player at 90 minutes per side time controls at the club thursday night.
But I also lost earlier to a 1500+ and a 1600+ players. I fell for
opening traps that I had never seen before. These earlier games were
over very quickly because I had underestimated my opponents and
was not thinking too hard and playing faster than I should have.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You picked one of my early games when I was playing like I would OTB.
Since then I have learned to use the analyze board before I move and
an opening book as well as look for similiar games by the grandmasters.
I am going to be playing that way again to get practice for OTB chess
since I have joined the USCF and a chess club again after 30 years.

19...Bxg5??? is bizarre for 1800+ also in OTB game.

Originally posted by RJHinds
No, I am not trying to accuse anyone. I was just trying to find out why
some people do.

Thanks for the clarification, and good show!

Originally posted by Pacifique
19...Bxg5??? is bizarre for 1800+ also in OTB game.

I have made many bizarre moves and blunders. Keep looking and you will
see where I gave away a rook for a pawn. I never was an 1800+ OTB
chess player. I normally only play around 1500+ but ever now and then
I play much better. That was the case when I acheived the 1800+ rating.
I was motivated then by the chance to win money. If I had won the 1st
place by myself, it would have been $7,500 but is was a 3-way tie so I
only got $4,500. That was the World Open. I was playing in the under
1600 section. The 1900+ player that I beat last thursday night had
shown how he beat a master 2300+ player the week before. So I was
in the mood to play my best.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I have made many bizarre moves and blunders. Keep looking and you will
see where I gave away a rook for a pawn. I never was an 1800+ OTB
chess player. I normally only play around 1500+ but ever now and then
I play much better. That was the case when I acheived the 1800+ rating.
I was motivated then by the chance to win money. If I had won the 1st
p ...[text shortened]... shown how he beat a master 2300+ player the week before. So I was
in the mood to play my best.

So you're now claiming to be a 1500 player with a rating on this site of nearly 2300?! 🙄

I could believe that someone who takes full advantage of CC resources could tack on a couple extra hundred points to their OTB rating but I don't see an u1800 player reaching 2250. Too many weaknesses in their game to consistently beat 2000 rated players, let alone these guys who seem to be able to play 50-100 games of 2200+ chess with no losses.


lol.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
So you're now claiming to be a 1500 player with a rating on this site of nearly 2300?! 🙄

I was a bit amazed at that but thought I would not say anything.

http://columbiachess.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/club-championship-is-underway.html


WT is that RJ?

Originally posted by RJHinds
The 1900+ player that I beat last thursday night had
shown how he beat a master 2300+ player the week before. So I was
in the mood to play my best.

I wish my best playing 'mood' increased my rating by 700 points!

Originally posted by hedonist
I try not to accuse anyone but it is hard sometimes when it is so blatant. I have played one player OTB who is on the top page of this site. He is rated 1300 OTB.

What do you think is happening there?

I know what I think.

What do you think?

I could see up to a 400 point or so differential but not that much. In RHP CC, I use a games database, MCO, and the analysis board religiously.

Originally posted by moon1969
I could see up to a 400 point or so differential but not that much. In RHP CC, I use a games database, MCO, and the analysis board religiously.

I think thats possible.

I'm 1400ish OTB. On here I sit at about 1600(when I don't timeout). But I play most of my moves with only seconds thought and don't use opening books, databases ect. I think if I kept my game load low, took my time and used all the tools available to a cc player, I could hit 1800.

Maybe...

The distance in strength between 1400 and 1800 is not comparable to 1800 to 2200+
"They" say that the halfway point to master is around 2100.

Originally posted by nimzo5
The distance in strength between 1400 and 1800 is not comparable to 1800 to 2200+
"They" say that the halfway point to master is around 2100.

Yeh, I understand that the higher up you go, the harder it is to gain points. Was thinking only of my own grading range.

So yes, I find it hard to believe that a player with 1800 OTB could make it to 2200+ here. It would be possible, just unlikely.

Originally posted by nimzo5
The distance in strength between 1400 and 1800 is not comparable to 1800 to 2200+
"They" say that the halfway point to master is around 2100.

Completely agree. The chase from 1600 to 2000 takes about as long as 2100 to 2200 as far as study is concerned. (exceptions being the ridiculously gifted)

I haven't had a non-provisional rating in many years, I just move around too much and don't get a chance to play in clubs very often (I'm a millwright for the power industry) but I have reached 2100 provisionally (2220 actually) in the more recent past. I didn't sustain that grade (fell to ~2130 after two more tournaments) - and its difficult to imagine how those boys do it. The level of play I was against made me quite sure I'd be leaking some more points as the club players became more accustomed to my style.

I don't think I realistically have given more than 10 hrs. to chess per week in many years (on average..and this is just a guess). Those hoping to pass the 2100 mark had better be currently investing more than that - for many straight years. When I was much younger I had put in quite a lot of time, and I was much better then than now. In college chess and beer was a way of life. I wouldn't doubt at all that I had 20~30 hours of chess every week (off and on some mind you...but pretty stable) for 13-15 years. Getting better was very slow.

I would feel safe to say a player jumping from 1500 to 2300 is completely impossible (this would have to take no less than 5 years of study). To me the longer time controls don't help much - you see what you see and you know what you know. You can have 20 years to look at a move and if you don't know the pattern.

Then you just don't know the damn pattern. End of story.

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