Dragon Lines against Yugoslav with g4, h4??

I hate to give away any home analysis of mine in this crucial Dragon line, but suffice to say that I think Black holds his own in some very messy positions in this line. The line Mikhail Golubev suggests in Experts vs. the Sicilian is:

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8. Qd2 Nc6 9. O-O-O d5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. Bd4 e5 13. Bc5 Be6 14. Ne4 Re8 15. h4 h6 16. g4 Qc7 17. g5 h5 18. Bc4 Red8 19.
Qf2 Qb7 20. Rhe1 Nf4 21. Bxe6 Nxe6 22. Bd6 Rd7 23. Rd2 Rad8 24. Red1 with an edge for White. Here I like the move 24...c5!, with a mess. 24...Qb6 and 24...Qb5 are the normal suggested moves, and maybe even okay as well. 24...c5 is the fighting move.

Originally posted by !~TONY~!
... As far as the book, it's Play the Sicilian Dragon by Dearing. Great book.

okay, thanks. I just ordered it...

Originally posted by wormwood
okay, thanks. I just ordered it...

Very welcome sir, I hope you enjoy the book and the Dragon!

Originally posted by !~TONY~!
I hate to give away any home analysis of mine in this crucial Dragon line, but suffice to say that I think Black holds his own in some very messy positions in this line. The line Mikhail Golubev suggests in Experts vs. the Sicilian is:

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8. Qd2 Nc6 9. O-O-O d5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Nxc6 b ...[text shortened]... ..Qb5 are the normal suggested moves, and maybe even okay as well. 24...c5 is the fighting move.

Very nice.

That's my line.

Cheers,

D

Originally posted by David Tebb
You could try a line known as the 'Chinese Dragon', which involves putting the rook on b8, instead of the normal c8 square, and playing an early ..b5.

I've used this line in a few games with great results. For instance:-

Game 2142212

Game 3270212

Game 2472701

The last game was very entertaining! 🙂

wow, 21...Bf5 in the last game was a "!!" .

Originally posted by David Tebb
You could try a line known as the 'Chinese Dragon', which involves putting the rook on b8, instead of the normal c8 square, and playing an early ..b5.

I've used this line in a few games with great results. For instance:-

Game 2142212

Game 3270212

Game 2472701

The last game was very entertaining! 🙂

Those were sweet clearance sacrifices! AWESOME!

referring to Game 2472701

here's a dragon from me. I should've lost it (somehow I missed the simple 17.Re1), but I just kept pushing and won eventually.

Game 3504230

Originally posted by David Tebb
You could try a line known as the 'Chinese Dragon', which involves putting the rook on b8, instead of the normal c8 square, and playing an early ..b5.

I've used this line in a few games with great results. For instance:-

Game 2142212

Game 3270212

Game 2472701

The last game was very entertaining! 🙂

Nice line. I really like the Queen entombment.

D

Originally posted by Ragnorak
I'm looking for some ideas for playing my Sicillian dragon against the Yugoslav attack with g4, h4.

That is the one line which destroys me everytime. I've practically decided to drop the Dragon because of the line.

Any ideas gratefully accepted.

D

XanthosNZ busted me up very badly when I tried to play the g4-h4 attack. He should've won, but I squeezed out a draw because he couldn't play endings.
Look at this game:

Game 1615557

Also, read this thread. Another bust by GM Ward against the g4-h4 line:
Thread 87326

Arrakis

Originally posted by Ragnorak
This is pretty much the line I'm talking about...

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. f3 Bg7 7. Be3 O-O 8. Qd2
Nc6 9. O-O-O Bd7 10. g4 *

with this being the position...
[fen]r2q1rk1/pp1bppbp/2np1np1/8/3NP1P1/2N1BP2/PPPQ3P/2KR1B1R b - - 0 10[/fen]

with 11. h4 to follow. I won't give black's 10th move as I'm not sure what the best 1 is. Also, I'm not entirely happy with 9...Bd7.

Thanks,

D

Qh5, Ne5, Rac8 and not in any particular order.. With this set up black can steal the initiative of an unwary opponent with the exchange sac Rxc3...for example if you are in this set up and white plays Bh6 the answer is almost always ...Bxh6 Qxh6 ...Rxc3. You have to be careful that you don't allow him to open the h-file though.

I would like to add this game to the topic - it demonstrates that as long as black can maintain initiative, no amount of material is too much.

Game 4033408

Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
I would like to add this game to the topic - it demonstrates that as long as black can maintain initiative, no amount of material is too much.

Game 4033408

blatant disregard for material is always fun. 🙂

Originally posted by tomtom232
Qh5, Ne5, Rac8 and not in any particular order.. With this set up black can steal the initiative of an unwary opponent with the exchange sac Rxc3...for example if you are in this set up and white plays Bh6 the answer is almost always ...Bxh6 Qxh6 ...Rxc3. You have to be careful that you don't allow him to open the h-file though.

But you have to watch out for white playing Kb1 and Nd5..wins a pawn and gets black in some trouble.

Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
I would like to add this game to the topic - it demonstrates that as long as black can maintain initiative, no amount of material is too much.

Game 4033408

NIce example TChex. 🙂

tchex, i dunno if im just to high or what... but why cant white move Ka1 in that game? am i just nuts? i see the discovered rook, and the bishop and the knight checking...what stops a1?