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  1. Standard member Icky Ike
    Pro-Complainer
    12 Oct '06 05:15
    Who's excited...?

    Ok, we all are. Just post stuff about it.
  2. 12 Oct '06 06:33
    Originally posted by ItalyBoyBlue
    Who's excited...?

    Ok, we all are. Just post stuff about it.
    Is it today?
  3. Standard member Icky Ike
    Pro-Complainer
    12 Oct '06 06:43
    Yeah it's today. It's in 4.25 hours.
  4. 12 Oct '06 06:44
    who is playing?
  5. Donation richjohnson
    TANSTAAFL
    12 Oct '06 06:46
    Originally posted by stevetodd
    Is it today?
    Yes. Susan Polgar will be doing live commentary at:
    http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/
  6. Standard member Wiabj
    The Black Swan
    12 Oct '06 06:57
    kramnik will fixe it again!

    Let the moves be the news !
  7. 12 Oct '06 06:59 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by stevetodd
    Is it today?
    I'm interested to know how other players feel about Topolov, before this started I respected him immensly, but actually was rooting for Kramnik because I never thought he got the respect he deserved. However events off the board have drastically effected my opinion. I will never respect Topolov again, yes he is a great chess player but as a man I have no respect for him and probably never will. Unless of course he publicly appologises to Kramnik, but that isn't very probable.
  8. Standard member Icky Ike
    Pro-Complainer
    12 Oct '06 07:11
    Initially I was rooting for Kramnik, simply because he was able to lift the title from the great Garry Kasparov. I had nothing against Topalov, until the whole fiasco. At first I thought maybe his manager was to blame, but since reading interviews with him at the match and taking into account his personal record with Kramnik I find Topalov to be an arrogant ass. He has harmed chess very much with his actions. I hope greatly to see his place at the top come to an end.
  9. 12 Oct '06 07:27
    What happens with the 5th game? Is it to be played, as Kramnik wants? Or is the w.o. win for Topalov

    Is this decided after a draw in the 12th game?

    What's happens if the total result will be 6-6? Who is World Champion then? Are they going to play more games? In this case, what kind of games?, and when?
  10. Standard member Icky Ike
    Pro-Complainer
    12 Oct '06 07:37
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    What happens with the 5th game? Is it to be played, as Kramnik wants? Or is the w.o. win for Topalov

    Is this decided after a draw in the 12th game?

    What's happens if the total result will be 6-6? Who is World Champion then? Are they going to play more games? In this case, what kind of games?, and when?
    That's just the thing, nobody knows.

    If they tie they'll probably play through the tiebreakers. Topalov has refused to replay game 5, but Kramnik may file a lawsuit against FIDE.
  11. 12 Oct '06 07:55
    Originally posted by ItalyBoyBlue
    That's just the thing, nobody knows.

    If they tie they'll probably play through the tiebreakers. Topalov has refused to replay game 5, but Kramnik may file a lawsuit against FIDE.
    I am no expert, but on what grounds can he sue? surely the laws of the game were simply applied when he didn't turn up. I wish he had just played, but maybe Topolov's plan worked and he was too aggitated and would have lost anyway? If it's a draw today and Topolov goes on to win I think it will be a hollow victory as many will not recognize him as the world champion, it's a shame that things have to come to this, but he has brought it on himself and IMO only an appology from him would even things out now.
  12. Subscriber no1marauder
    Humble and Kind
    12 Oct '06 08:07 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by stevetodd
    I am no expert, but on what grounds can he sue? surely the laws of the game were simply applied when he didn't turn up. I wish he had just played, but maybe Topolov's plan worked and he was too aggitated and would have lost anyway? If it's a draw today and Topolov goes on to win I think it will be a hollow victory as many will not recognize him as the worl ut he has brought it on himself and IMO only an appology from him would even things out now.
    Breach of contract by the match organizers would be a place to start. Remember that prize money is being awarded based on the result of the match.
  13. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    12 Oct '06 08:10
    Remind me, how many games are they scheduled to play? Is it 12 or 24?
  14. 12 Oct '06 08:15
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Breach of contract by the match organizers would be a place to start. Remember that prize money is being awarded based on the result of the match.
    I honestly hope there is a chance of this, although I would like to see him do it on the board, it might teach Topolov a lesson if his bad sportsmanship cost him. What would Kramnik be suing for? game 5 replayed, the whole match replayed or just not recognized officially? At the very least I hope Topolov is somewhere at the back of his mind concerned about this and distracting him slightly as that would be real ironic justice IMO
  15. Standard member Icky Ike
    Pro-Complainer
    12 Oct '06 08:31 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by stevetodd
    I am no expert, but on what grounds can he sue? surely the laws of the game were simply applied when he didn't turn up. I wish he had just played, but maybe Topolov's plan worked and he was too aggitated and would have lost anyway? If it's a draw today and Topolov goes on to win I think it will be a hollow victory as many will not recognize him as the worl ut he has brought it on himself and IMO only an appology from him would even things out now.
    The games after game 5 were postponed because of Kramnik's refusal to play. During this period all of the commitee's decisions were reversed and the commitee itself was made to resign and was replaced.

    Here is the question. Why allow the postponement of the other games as a result of protest and not game 5? And then why allow that game to count as a forfeit in either players' favor when it was not played because of conditions that were found to be so unfairly imposed that they were overturned and the commitee who made them was forced to disperse???

    It's faulty logic.